Take the versus fanboy test....

Started by demigawd43 pages

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
So the Waterwalking and Sub demolishing feats are back?

Ok, I think that the reason Cordera combined the feats of the games was because they all exist as canon in the same timeline, the very same version of the character actually performed all the feats from those games.

Anywho, I still think that only the comic and toon versions of the characters should be admissable here, because they are the only ones that can be compare to the comic characters with any digree of accuracy...

A bit like this "Dan Can kick all their asses because I beat everyon with him!" Sound familiar? Sure Dan can be a kickass character in the hands of the right player, but it's not accurate to his storyline, and more importantly, you can't compare hgow you play a character compared to something that is official.

But they don't exist as canon in the same storyline. That's the problem. The movie isn't canon to Capcom, so all the bullet dodging, mountain shattering, asteroid breaking feats don't fit into canon. So in the end, we're still only left with impressive feats by Akuma, but nobody else, unless you count Gill coming back from the dead...which is cool, too.

Ok, Lemme clear this up a little.

The one and ONLY time Satsui No Hadou Metazama Ryu (Evil Ryu) EVER appeared officially was during hs very first fight with Sagat, during that one Dragon punch that gave him his chest scar.

Ryu was brainwashed by Bison was NOT under the influence of the Satsui No Hadou (Murder Wave)

Actually, when it comes to games, it does. The same Ryu that defeated Akuma in Alpha 2 is the same Ryu that lost to Oro in SF3, just different areas of the same timeline. As for the Movie refferenes, I agree, they are not part of the timeline and are therefore inadmissable from this versiion of Ryu. So yeah the one cannon refference to bullet dodging is gone.

I havn't plaayed CSF so I don't know about the Asteroid killing or the Mountain busting

no more SF characters....please.... 🙁

True. "Evil" Ryu (brainwashed) and "Evil" Ryu (Satsui No Hadou) are different. Bison (again, according to my official guide) said that Satsui No Hadou and Psycho Power are cousins or somesuch. He wanted to bring it out of Ryu, but the best he could do was a brainwashed regular Ryu. It's this Evil (brainwashed regular) Ryu that Sagat fought and defeated, snapping Ryu out of the brainwashing. It had nothing to do with the Dark Hadou (Satsui no Hadou)

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Actually, when it comes to games, it does. The same Ryu that defeated Akuma in Alpha 2 is the same Ryu that lost to Oro in SF3, just different areas of the same timeline. As for the Movie refferenes, I agree, they are not part of the timeline and are therefore inadmissable from this versiion of Ryu. So yeah the one cannon refference to bullet dodging is gone.

I havn't plaayed CSF so I don't know about the Asteroid killing or the Mountain busting

Ah, yes, I see what you're saying. My statement at the time reflected my belief that Alpha 3 replaced Alpha 2. That was why I used the example I used. To clarify the example in light of DVamp's correction, Alpha 1 Ryu feats don't count, because it's essentially a What If reality for Ryu, since Alpha 1 doesn't officially exist (having been replaced by Alpha 2), and any feats there must be discounted. Does that make more sense?

Thats true indeed Bison called their powers Kindred to eachother in Alpha 3...

I see, NP

Part 1:

The fanboy test, classic. Everyone should take it before joining.

Who can wolveirne beat?

Namor - Most likely not
Spiderman - Most likely not
Venom - Most likely not
Carnage - Most likely not
Taskmaster - Maybe
Elecktra - Maybe
Daredevil -Maybe
Dock Ock - Most likely not
Sandman - No
Hydroman - No
Omega Red - No
Sabretooth - Yes
Mr. x - ???
Cyclops - Close Quarters - Yes... At Distance - No
Xavier - No
Magneto - No
Nightcrawler - Maybe
Ryu - No
Ken - Most Likely Not
Bison - No
Akuma - No
Iron Man - No, Iron Man will just blast him from a distance
Hulk - No
Shang Chi - Maybe(He's beaten Chi before, but he won't fall against him twice)
Karate Kid - No
Apocalypse - No, not by himself
Storm - Close Quarters - Yes... At distance - No
Shadowcat - Hmmm... Maybe
Green Goblin - Maybe
Hobgoblin - Maybe
Godzilla - No
Silver Surfer - Ultra No
Firelord - Ultra No
Human Torch - No
Dr. Doom - Most Likely not, But Close Quarters, He Has A Chance
Thing - No
Tyrant - Ultra Super No
Zarathos - No
Dormammu - Ultra No
Dr. Strange - No
Deathstroke - Maybe
Batman - Maybe
Gambit - Maybe
Deadpool - Maybe
Superman - Ultra No
Wonder Woman - No
Green Arrow - Yes
Hawkeye - Yes
Wasp - Maybe
Thor - Ultra No
Odin - Ultra Super No
TOAA - Ultra Super Duper Duper No
Living Tribunal - Ultra Super Duper No
Galactus - Ultra Super Duper No
Krypto - No
Supergirl - Ultra No
Tombstone - Maybe, if his claws can pierce all the way through his thick exterior. Most likely not.
Morlun - No
Kraven - Yes
Invisible Woman - No
Magneto - No
Quicksiver - Maybe
Scarlet Witch - No
Havok - Close Quarters - Yes... At Distance - No
Jean Grey - Most likely not
Phoenix - Ultra Super Duper No
Mickey Mouse - Yes
Cable - Maybe
She Hulk - Most Likely No

What my answers mean:

Yes : Yes He can win

No: No he can't

Maybe: 50/50 Chance

Most Likely Not: Wolverine's got a 5% to 10% percent chance.

Ultra No: Hell No!

Ultra Super No: No Chance In Hell!!!

Ultra Super Duper No: Hell No!!! What kind of fu<king question is that!? No Chance In Hell!!!

Ultra Super Duper Duper No: Hell No!!! What kind of fu<king question is that!? No Chance In Hell!!! Fu<k No!!! Hell No!!! No Fu<king Chance In Hell!!!

I'm a fanboy of whoever my avatar is at the moment,so i guess i love me some Captain Marvel. SHAZAM!!!

Wait people are being judged on weather or not they are a fanboy, based on how YOU decide that the matches will go?

Kinda arrogant of you to make this don't you think?

(I'll probably do it later, just for kicks.)

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No- Wolverine cannot win
Yes- Wolverine can win
Maybe - Haven't given it any thought.
???- Either don't recognize or don't remember the character.

Re: Take the versus fanboy test....

Namor-No
Spiderman-No
Venom-No
Carnage-No
Taskmaster-No
Elecktra-I've heard she kicks his a$$, but I've never seen it.
Daredevil-No. DD crushes his windpipe again.
Dock Ock-Ock still got adamantium arms? If so--No
Sandman-No
Hydroman-No
Omega Red-No
Sabretooth-Depends on how upgraded Sabes is
Mr. x-Yes by Beserker Rage
Cyclops-No
Xavier-No
Magneto-No
Nightcrawler-Same way DD beats him. Teleport up and crushes the windpipe
Ryu-No
Ken-No
Bison-No
Akuma-No
Iron Man-No
Hulk-No
Shang Chi-Same as DD
Karate Kid-Wolverine cuts Ralph Macchio's head off! He loses to the lame overpowerd Karate Kid from the future though.
Apocalypse-No
Storm-No
Shadowcat-No
Green Goblin-No
Hobgoblin-No
Godzilla-N
Silver Surfer-Hell no!
Firelord-No
Human Torch-No
Dr. Doom-No
Thing-Yes
Tyrant-No
Zarathos-No
Dormammu-No
Dr. Strange-No
Deathstroke-No
Batman-Yes-Batman doesn't use deadly enough force until it's too late.
Gambit-Can Gambit still charge objects by looking @ 'em? If so -No
Deadpool-No
Superman-Another lame-o that unfortunately beats Wolvie
Wonder Woman-Another lame-o that unfortunately beats Wolvie
Green Arrow-Yes
Hawkeye-Yes
Wasp-No
Thor-No
Odin-No
TOAA-Don't know much about him, but if he's cosmic level or above-NO
Living Tribunal-NO
Galactus-No
Krypto-Another lame-o that unfortunately beats Wolvie
Supergirl-Another lame-o that unfortunately beats Wolvie
Tombstone-How durable is Lonnie?
Morlun-Don't know enough about Morlun. Heard he's pretty tough, but so is Wolvie
Kraven-No
Invisible Woman-No
Magneto-No
Quicksiver-No
Scarlet Witch-No
Havok-No
Jean Grey-No
Phoenix-Hell NO!
Mickey Mouse-No. Mickey knows magic. He'd kill Supes.
Cable-No
She Hulk-Not anymore

Originally posted by demigawd
Wolverine has enhanced speed, and you're forgetting that it's not just Wolverine vs. Cyclop's blast...it's Wolverine vs. Cyclops. Cyclops isn't fast enough to react to someone with metahuman speed getting the jump on him, getting his bearings, and opening his visor and firing fast enough to not get tagged. Storm, who is much slower than Wolverine, got the jump on Cyke.

I wouldn't call the submarine feat to be better than the others. But either way, it's a better feat than anyone else in the SF universe has done according to Capcom.

Ah, so you see, we've now switched from the game version back to the cartoon version. Do you see that? You're using composite characters.

ok, so it really all comes down to this, which I can accept - using their higher composite showings, they give Wolverine a run for his money, which I can agree with. I go by canon showings, which is quite a different story. All I'm asking is that you mention which version you're using, to avoid confusion. That's all I'm asking.

NP I understand, just keep in mind that its alot of shit, and makes a harder discussion overall here, thats what I mean.

Re: Re: Take the versus fanboy test....

Originally posted by brainchild81
Namor-No
Spiderman-No
Venom-No
Carnage-No
Taskmaster-No
Elecktra-I've heard she kicks his a$$, but I've never seen it.
Daredevil-No. DD crushes his windpipe again.
Dock Ock-Ock still got adamantium arms? If so--No
Sandman-No
Hydroman-No
Omega Red-No
Sabretooth-Depends on how upgraded Sabes is
Mr. x-Yes by Beserker Rage
Cyclops-No
Xavier-No
Magneto-No
Nightcrawler-Same way DD beats him. Teleport up and crushes the windpipe
Ryu-No
Ken-No
Bison-No
Akuma-No
Iron Man-No
Hulk-No
Shang Chi-Same as DD
Karate Kid-Wolverine cuts Ralph Macchio's head off! He loses to the lame overpowerd Karate Kid from the future though.
Apocalypse-No
Storm-No
Shadowcat-No
Green Goblin-No
Hobgoblin-No
Godzilla-N
Silver Surfer-Hell no!
Firelord-No
Human Torch-No
Dr. Doom-No
Thing-Yes
Tyrant-No
Zarathos-No
Dormammu-No
Dr. Strange-No
Deathstroke-No
Batman-Yes-Batman doesn't use deadly enough force until it's too late.
Gambit-Can Gambit still charge objects by looking @ 'em? If so -No
Deadpool-No
Superman-Another lame-o that unfortunately beats Wolvie
Wonder Woman-Another lame-o that unfortunately beats Wolvie
Green Arrow-Yes
Hawkeye-Yes
Wasp-No
Thor-No
Odin-No
TOAA-Don't know much about him, but if he's cosmic level or above-NO
Living Tribunal-NO
Galactus-No
Krypto-Another lame-o that unfortunately beats Wolvie
Supergirl-Another lame-o that unfortunately beats Wolvie
Tombstone-How durable is Lonnie?
Morlun-Don't know enough about Morlun. Heard he's pretty tough, but so is Wolvie
Kraven-No
Invisible Woman-No
Magneto-No
Quicksiver-No
Scarlet Witch-No
Havok-No
Jean Grey-No
Phoenix-Hell NO!
Mickey Mouse-No. Mickey knows magic. He'd kill Supes.
Cable-No
She Hulk-Not anymore

great!!! You passed part one...

Originally posted by Creshosk
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No- Wolverine cannot win
Yes- Wolverine can win
Maybe - Haven't given it any thought.
???- Either don't recognize or don't remember the character.

redo this, I can't compare that... 🙁

Originally posted by Creshosk
Wait people are being judged on weather or not they are a fanboy, based on how YOU decide that the matches will go?

Kinda arrogant of you to make this don't you think?

(I'll probably do it later, just for kicks.)

You're taking this alittle too seriously.

Its just for kicks, for some people anyways.

Originally posted by Sentry
Part 1:

The fanboy test, classic. Everyone should take it before joining.

[B]Who can wolveirne beat?

Namor - Most likely not
Spiderman - Most likely not
Venom - Most likely not
Carnage - Most likely not
Taskmaster - Maybe
Elecktra - Maybe
Daredevil -Maybe
Dock Ock - Most likely not
Sandman - No
Hydroman - No
Omega Red - No
Sabretooth - Yes
Mr. x - ???
Cyclops - Close Quarters - Yes... At Distance - No
Xavier - No
Magneto - No
Nightcrawler - Maybe
Ryu - No
Ken - Most Likely Not
Bison - No
Akuma - No
Iron Man - No, Iron Man will just blast him from a distance
Hulk - No
Shang Chi - Maybe(He's beaten Chi before, but he won't fall against him twice)
Karate Kid - No
Apocalypse - No, not by himself
Storm - Close Quarters - Yes... At distance - No
Shadowcat - Hmmm... Maybe
Green Goblin - Maybe
Hobgoblin - Maybe
Godzilla - No
Silver Surfer - Ultra No
Firelord - Ultra No
Human Torch - No
Dr. Doom - Most Likely not, But Close Quarters, He Has A Chance
Thing - No
Tyrant - Ultra Super No
Zarathos - No
Dormammu - Ultra No
Dr. Strange - No
Deathstroke - Maybe
Batman - Maybe
Gambit - Maybe
Deadpool - Maybe
Superman - Ultra No
Wonder Woman - No
Green Arrow - Yes
Hawkeye - Yes
Wasp - Maybe
Thor - Ultra No
Odin - Ultra Super No
TOAA - Ultra Super Duper Duper No
Living Tribunal - Ultra Super Duper No
Galactus - Ultra Super Duper No
Krypto - No
Supergirl - Ultra No
Tombstone - Maybe, if his claws can pierce all the way through his thick exterior. Most likely not.
Morlun - No
Kraven - Yes
Invisible Woman - No
Magneto - No
Quicksiver - Maybe
Scarlet Witch - No
Havok - Close Quarters - Yes... At Distance - No
Jean Grey - Most likely not
Phoenix - Ultra Super Duper No
Mickey Mouse - Yes
Cable - Maybe
She Hulk - Most Likely No

What my answers mean:

Yes : Yes He can win

No: No he can't

Maybe: 50/50 Chance

Most Likely Not: Wolverine's got a 5% to 10% percent chance.

Ultra No: Hell No!

Ultra Super No: No Chance In Hell!!!

Ultra Super Duper No: Hell No!!! What kind of fu<king question is that!? No Chance In Hell!!!

Ultra Super Duper Duper No: Hell No!!! What kind of fu<king question is that!? No Chance In Hell!!! Fu<k No!!! Hell No!!! No Fu<king Chance In Hell!!! [/B]

Great job, and is funny too...

Originally posted by demigawd
But they don't exist as canon in the same storyline. That's the problem. The movie isn't canon to Capcom, so all the bullet dodging, mountain shattering, asteroid breaking feats don't fit into canon. So in the end, we're still only left with impressive feats by Akuma, but nobody else, unless you count Gill coming back from the dead...which is cool, too.

Which is why you actually have to GET into it. Its obvious when someone is debating just the sources, as ANYONE into it would know that Ryu is past this point at training. Games are okay, but do little to illustrate, there has to be game balance too. lIke in the games ryu cant make his chi go on his limbs so on and so forth.

Feat wars do little. How is wolverine going to win? Guys that hit harder, faster, have superhuman awareness, dedication, and legendary fighting skill, wolverine is left with claws, and vega has those...

Healing factor would be overcome in one who knows how to fight really well, if DD smacks him around, ryu sure as hell does, and ken, AND bison, AND DEFINITELY AKUMA!

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Namor:

Spiderman-yep
Venom-yep
Carnage-yep
Taskmaster-yep
Elecktra-yep
Daredevil-yep
Dock Ock-yep
Sandman-no
Hydroman-no
Omega Red-yep
Sabretooth-yep
Mr. x-yep
Cyclops-yep
Xavier-no
Magneto-no
Nightcrawler-yep
Ryu-Don't know
Ken-Don't know
Bison-Don't know
Akuma-Don't know
Iron Man-has done it already
Hulk-has done it already
Shang Chi-yep
Karate Kid-maybe...
Apocalypse-yep...has done it already
Storm-yep
Shadowcat-tie
Green Goblin-yep
Hobgoblin-yep
Godzilla-maybe...
Silver Surfer-no
Firelord-maybe...
Human Torch-yep, has done it already
Dr. Doom-yep, has done it already
Thing-yep, has done it already
Tyrant-No
Zarathos-No
Dormammu-No
Dr. Strange-No
Deathstroke-yep
Batman-yep
Gambit-yep
Deadpool-yep
Superman-No
Wonder Woman-Maybe
Green Arrow-yep
Hawkeye-yep
Wasp-yep
Thor-Nope
Odin-no
TOAA-no
Living Tribunal-no
Galactus-no
Krypto-yep
Supergirl-no
Tombstone-yep
Morlun-yep
Kraven-yep
Invisible Woman-yep, has done it already
Magneto-no again.
Quicksiver-yep
Scarlet Witch-nope
Havok-yep
Jean Grey-bo
Phoenix-no
Mickey Mouse-no way in hell
Cable-no
She Hulk-yep

carnage?

And for the "has done it already" do you think namor would win more often than not?