Originally posted by Darth Somebody
Illustrious and Nai Fohl have made some excellent points. I will say that there is precious hope that I can counter them, but I'll do my best. So let's begin.Allow me to start out by saying that it is my belief that both Traya (Kreia) and Sidious are alike in many ways. Both possess un-natural strength in The Force. Both are excellent at using the Force to forsee future events - with Kreia's being even greater than Sidious's. Both are manipulative and clever - with Sidious being greater than Kreia here. So both have their talents and abilities. Obviously, Kreia's forseeing events and Sidious's manipulative talent will do no good in a one-on-one duel.
Kreia is powerful, indeed. She wiped out three Jedi Masters (like Sidious) with pure ease. I don't quite remember, but I was told she did it with a mere wave of her hand, expressing her strength in The Force. Kreia is also powerful with a lightsaber, like Sidious.
Sidious, while also powerful, is more of a mastermind than a warrior. His most dangerous weapon is not his mastery of the Force or his amazing combat skills, but rather, his mind. Manipulating events and people will not do him any good in this affair.
It would seem that Kreia would defeat Sidious in the end, when looking at evidence. And I would agree. Sidious would not be OWNED. Someone mentioned what I did earlier, about Kreia killing Jedi with a wave of her hand. And yet I wonder why she did not utilize this talent when fighting the Exile. So it would appear to me that this power can be dismissed. Afterall. If you can use it once, why can't you use it again?
The Dark Empire version of Sidious, I believe, would dominate Kreia in a fight. His Force Storm can be counterbalanced, by two powerful Force users such as Leia and Luke. But I don't know if Kreia could do it. Again I may be wrong, but I'm not sure. If Sidious employed the Force Storm, he would defeat Kreia. In lightsaber combat, perhaps as well.
So, in conclusion. In my opinion - Kreia would win against any form of Sidious - EXCEPT for the Dark Empire version of him - where he would conquer her.
As to why Kreia did not simply exterminate the Exile with a wave of her hand like she had the Jedi masters, the answer is more complicated then most think. COnsider the following:
- Kreia wanted the exile to be taught and trained... So that when she passed (And I am paraphrasing her right here) the exile would come full circle and confront his/her past.
- Kreia has no reason to kill the exile. None.
- Kreia's talent that was used against the Jedi masters is one born of the Sith of the Jedi Civil War... namely the assassins bred by Revan's dark projects. On a lesser scale, the nameless sith assassins as encountered throughout the game grow in strength as the exile does (Because the exile regains his/her connection to the Force via Kreia and others). Kreia, much stronger in the art, uses it to destroy the Jedi masters. (Note that when the bodies are checked after her attack, they are marked as being "devoid of life and even of the Force". ) Nihilus, the pinnacle of the art, has become consumed by his power and does not operate on any level we can understand. But that's besides the point. Kreia uses a previously unknown Sith art, and I doubt VERY MUCH that Sidious knows of it and can counter it, seeing as even the Sith who created it cannot counter it.
- Kreia has a better command of the Force then both Luke and Leia in the Dark Empire books, so doubtless she can counter it. However, it might take its toll on her. She's not invincible by any means.
- Manipulation is Kreia's forte as well. Darth Somebody, I assume you have no played KOTOR II through, because if you had, you would have come to appreicate Kreia's philosophy of using sentients as tools. Kreia has no friends, only tools with which to do her bidding. Like Palpatine, she knows that a gentle nudge can lead to a terrifying avalanche. So I would reconsider any ideas that Palpatine is the sole genius here. kreia is every bit as smart and moreso... She's willing to die for her cause. I believe that gives her more conviction in a fight.
- Kreia is a former Jedi master and a Sith lord. She has a broader range of experience in these matters.