Spanking children == Sexual Abuse?!!!

Originally posted by Bardock42
No, no...that is different....you were refering of a thread we both attended that's why I think "me" is the correct form
If you want to say "Bardock and I are good friends" that is right....but you have to say "It happened in another thread of Bardock and me" ....

Again I could be wrong...its just my feeling...I don't know English Grammar very well....

You're wrong, through no fault of your own if it's your second language. It is 'Bardock and I', no matter the context. It wil always be 'Bardock and I', but will never be 'I and Bardock'. This would then become 'Me and Bardock', never 'Bardock and Me'.

Originally posted by Syren
You're wrong, through no fault of your own if it's your second language. It is 'Bardock and I', no matter the context. It wil always be 'Bardock and I', but will never be 'I and Bardock'. This would then become 'Me and Bardock', never 'Bardock and Me'.

Is that true...well then....I can't always be right now can I 😛

Originally posted by Bardock42
Is that true...well then....I can't always be right now can I 😛

"Bardock and I were in another thread..."

Instead of

"Bardock and me were in another thread..."

Taking out the Bardock, one gets "I was in another thread..." (when changing the conjugation to match the subject) versus "Me were in another thread..."

I'm a little confused by what Syren was saying--there WILL be cases where 'Bardock and me' would be appropriate, such as "FeceMan's grammatical knowledge just sodomized Bardock, Syren, and me".

Originally posted by FeceMan
The reason it is 'Bardock and I' is because, if one were to change the sentence around so that 'Bardock and I' came before the verb, it would be:

"Bardock and I were in another thread..."

Instead of

"Bardock and me were in another thread..."

Taking out the Bardock, one gets "I was in another thread..." (when changing the conjugation to match the subject) versus "Me were in another thread..."

I'm a little confused by what Syren was saying--there WILL be cases where 'Bardock and me' would be appropriate, such as "FeceMan's grammatical knowledge just sodomized Bardock, Syren, and me".

But that is what I was saying.... I said in the beginning of a sentence it has to be "Bardock and I" and in the end it has to be " Bardock and me" ....that'S what you are saying too...I mean I am still rather sure theat I am right so...here's to you Mr. FeceMan:

"The caring comment is a clever joke, due to another thread between Bardock and I."

Is this sentence right or wrong?

Originally posted by FeceMan
The reason it is 'Bardock and I' is because, if one were to change the sentence around so that 'Bardock and I' came before the verb, it would be:

"Bardock and I were in another thread..."

Instead of

"Bardock and me were in another thread..."

Taking out the Bardock, one gets "I was in another thread..." (when changing the conjugation to match the subject) versus "Me were in another thread..."

I'm a little confused by what Syren was saying--there WILL be cases where 'Bardock and me' would be appropriate, such as "FeceMan's grammatical knowledge just sodomized Bardock, Syren, and me".

🙄

I tried... I failed.

Originally posted by Bardock42
But that is what I was saying.... I said in the beginning of a sentence it has to be "Bardock and I" and in the end it has to be " Bardock and me" ....that'S what you are saying too...I mean I am still rather sure theat I am right so...here's to you Mr. FeceMan:

"The caring comment is a clever joke, due to another thread between Bardock and I."

Is this sentence right or wrong?

Correct...

Originally posted by Syren
Correct...

I am aware of your opinion.....that's why its to fece.....

Ok... 😑 But that sentence is correct.

Originally posted by Syren
Ok... 😑 But that sentence is correct.

Yes......maybe......but what Fece said sounded more reasobnable to me....
And on what do you base your belief that its right.....

And is my alternative wrong?

"The caring comment is a clever joke, due to another thread between Bardock and I."

I believe this to be grammatically correct in comparison to;

"The caring comment is a clever joke, due to another thread between Bardock and me."

Based on my knowledge of the English language...

Originally posted by Syren
"The caring comment is a clever joke, due to another thread between Bardock and I."

I believe this to be grammatically correct in comparison to;

"The caring comment is a clever joke, due to another thread between Bardock and me."

Based on my knowledge of the English language...

Yes...well that's the same source I have so i would like a third and fourth (and so on) opinion.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Well I care for some but in general...no...not really

Point in joining KMC is that I like to argue...I like to read a good post (granted I could have read it without joining), I like to write stuff as pointless as it sometimes may be....so I joined KMC for my fun which at that time didn't involve caring fopr company or being in a community to feel good (it still doesn't but there are some people here I vry much enjoy talking to)

It was not...in no way....It was the most reasonable thing to think....why should beating be ok just cause she needs it to raise her kids...others don't......I don't say its worse or better to beat your kids...but if they need beating it is either cause the parent can't deal with it differen or the kid needs them once in a while...some kids are like that......I didn't mean to say that her kids are psychos...and I didn't...youi all just took it wrong...I don't blame you for it though.

Bardock and me...I am pretty sure 😛 .... but yes it is.....

First of all... Who the f*ck ever said BEAT? I was pointing out that spankings are sometimes necessary.. Trust me its not like i have human services at my door because my kids are black & blue from me wailing on them... And I'll thank you to keep your opinions on this issue as general statememnts and not singling me out simply because I had teh guts to stand up and tell the truth about parenting.. you dont like it? fine... make all th ecomments you want but dont you dare insinuate that my kids are in any way deserving of harsh discipline (because thats NOT what i said at all) or pretend to know what type of parent I am or am not.. I dont know you from Adam & vice versa so you have no basis in singling ME out other than to pick a fight.. whcih is immature and inflammatory.. These threads are supposed to be for debate (you know civilized disagreements played out in well thought out responses) not ARGUMENTS as you said you so much enjoy... if thats what you like then great.. go ARGUE somewhere to someone in RL rather than hide behind your computer screen from the ass kicking you most certainly would recieve for insulting people in RL like you do here...

Personally I am against spanking, I'm agaisnt hitting kids in general.

My parents never did it to me and I think I turned out pretty ok.

I wouldn't classify it under any kind of abuse tho

Well then substitute Beat with Spank.....

I just dot know what to answer....you and Syremn will just take my words and twist them....but I have to anyways....

I did not single you out,...I did not say that your Children deserve a higher amount of spanking, I didn't pretend to know what kind of parent you are, I don't know you, I didn't single you out....(yes I know I started with the same as I finished......)

Now to clarify things...I said that if you take No Spanking as standard (which I don*t do I believe a beating once in a while can strenghthen the character) then if beating has to be used it is either because of the Rebeelious Kids or the Nature of the Parent......it is just true....people are different some kids need spanking...some parents spank easier than others......
Great you found the next misuse of a word I don't know the difference between an arguement and a debate...I like to talk to people voice my opinion ridicule theirs...it just like it...I do it in School, I do it with my friends (no I son't DO it with my friends) I do it with my Classmates, and I do it on here.....cause its a good community, good posts different opinions...I like KMC.......but since I don't really like people that much and don't have that many occasions in RL to argue I do it here too.....nothing wrong with that....

And I didn*t insult you...and come her and I say it to your face again.....I am not afraid of ass kicking...if I deserve it then so be it....but I don*t really in this case....you are just to emotional.....maybe you are overprotective towards yopur children (ok sorry...that was mean....but I had to type it fpr my own amusement)

Originally posted by Bardock42
maybe you are overprotective towards yopur children (ok sorry...that was mean....but I had to type it fpr my own amusement)

thats EXACTLY what it is,, and in case noone clued you in yet.. ITS WHAT A GOOD PARENT DOES

Originally posted by bilb
thats EXACTLY what it is,, and in case noone clued you in yet.. ITS WHAT A GOOD PARENT DOES

Well the word "over" in this case at least for me implies that it is too much...but you are right better too protective than not enough.....the right amount would be the best of course......

But, you nstill feel insulted?

I agree with Bardock there is such a thing as being overprotective.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Well the word "over" in this case at least for me implies that it is too much...but you are right better to protective than not enough.....the right amount would be the best of course......

But, you nstill feel insulted?

yes this is insulting:

Now to clarify things...I said that if you take No Spanking as standard (which I don*t do I believe a beating once in a while can strenghthen the character) then if beating has to be used it is either because of the Rebeelious Kids or the Nature of the Parent.... .

Originally posted by bilb
yes this is insulting:

Well then.....I won*t apologize...since its not.....its just hypothetical.....but anyways