Heart of the Universe vs Infinity Gauntlet vs Cosmic Cube

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Heart of the Universe vs Infinity Gauntlet vs Cosmic Cube

Hawkeye w/ Heart of the Universe

VS

Captain America w/ Infinity Gauntlet

VS

Wolverine w/ Cosmic Cube

What is the most powerful item in the universe?

anyone?

describe each items briefly...that might help

The CC gives you power on a global scale. The IG, over a universe. The HOTU on a multiversal scale. Doesn't matter who's wielding them.

so, that means HOTU is the most powerful right?

Nowhere in The End does it state that HOTU gave Thanos the power over a multiverse, at least not to my memory. I'll check when I get home.

It stands to reason that if Thanos can overpower the Living Tribunal (who has power over the multiverse), then Thanos would have 'multiversal' power as well.

hawk eyew ould win of course! if he had the HOTU he would win.

Originally posted by K Von Doom
It stands to reason that if Thanos can overpower the Living Tribunal (who has power over the multiverse), then Thanos would have 'multiversal' power as well.

Well, who's to say he couldn't have done that with the IG as well?

Originally posted by Nataku8188
Well, who's to say he couldn't have done that with the IG as well?

Some people.

Living Tribunal = IG is debatable

HOTU > Living Tribunal is fact

The Infinity gems are the power of the heart of the universe, observe.

Originally posted by K Von Doom
Some people.

Living Tribunal = IG is debatable

HOTU > Living Tribunal is fact


LT > IG

HOTU > LT > IG > all Abstract

IG defeated all abstract even multiversal (so it can also have multiversal effects)

HOTU just made him one with all of creation

Originally posted by kgkg
LT > IG

HOTU > LT > IG > all Abstract

IG defeated all abstract even multiversal (so it can also have multiversal effects)

HOTU just made him one with all of creation

Prove that LT was greater than IG

Originally posted by Nataku8188
Prove that LT was greater than IG

Because he was the only one able to restore peace when Adam had the LT

Tribunal has death with Star bands and other multiversal thread.

Tribunal didn’t care about IG at first since he was above that.

In ruin (or something) took all the piece of IG

Silver Surfer said I know it's within your power to stop it.

Originally posted by kgkg
Because he was the only one able to restore peace when Adam had the LT

Tribunal has death with Star bands and other multiversal thread.

Tribunal didn’t care about IG at first since he was above that.

LT only cared about HOTU because Thanos sought to dominate all of creation, he didn't care about IG because, as he put it, "He fairly collected the IG and only sought to eliminate half the universe's populations" which did not require him to stop.

There is no concrete proof that IG is weaker than HOTU, infact, I believe IG is the same thing as HOTU.

Originally posted by Nataku8188
Prove that LT was greater than IG
He was able to cancel out its effect with the snap of a finger...leaving Warlock surprised and bewildered. Of course LT had to talk him into submitting to his judgement...so we may never fully know if he really was more powerful or if he was bluffing...but all signs point to LT being superior because of that one finger-snappng feat.

Now prove IG is greater than LT. Aside from Warlock's ultra-brave stance (consisting of mostly taunts) against LT, he didn't provide anything in the way of concrete evidence to suggest he was superior with the IG.

Originally posted by Lord S
He was able to cancel out its effect with the snap of a finger...leaving Warlock surprised and bewildered. Of course LT had to talk him into submitting to his judgement...so we may never fully know if he really was more powerful or if he was bluffing...but all signs point to LT being superior because of that one finger-snappng feat.

Now prove IG is greater than LT. Aside from Warlock's ultra-brave stance (consisting of mostly taunts) against LT, he didn't provide anything in the way of concrete evidence to suggest he was superior with the IG.

Who's to say Warlock had as much skill with IG as Thanos, who, while in possesion of the IG came to the conclusion that he was the supreme master of reality, had the power of the heart of the universe and is the controller of unlimited power that can warp time, reality, space, and the mind. If he has unlimited power that can warp reality, how can LT do anything to him? If he controls the power of the HOTU with the IG, then he can do to LT what he did with the HOTU.

The only difference between HOTU and IG is that IG is external control, like standing outside of the world and changing what you want, while HOTU is you being within it, you are the actual energy. Here;

Originally posted by Nataku8188
Who's to say Warlock had as much skill with IG as Thanos, who, while in possesion of the IG came to the conclusion that he was the supreme master of reality, had the power of the heart of the universe and is the controller of unlimited power that can warp time, reality, space, and the mind. If he has unlimited power that can warp reality, how can LT do anything to him? If he controls the power of the HOTU with the IG, then he can do to LT what he did with the HOTU.
Thanos came to that conclusion on his own...just like LT told Warlock that he represented forces that dwarf the might of the IG...either or both can be considered CIS. If you choose to believe both, then you have to believe what LT has demonstrated (cancelling out the effect of the IG)...but if it's a question of skill, then I'd choose Warlock, for the simple fact that he expelled both good and evil from his being, and operated purely on logic. That whole crap about him being mentally unfit was pure bullshit, cause Eternity was jealous of him...the Well (of Truth?) in Death's layer also said the same thing.

The only difference between HOTU and IG is that IG is external control, like standing outside of the world and changing what you want, while HOTU is you being within it, you are the actual energy.

Again, LT has stated that the forces he represents dwarf the might of the IG...the HOTU grants the wielder the powers of said forces. Cause the Heart is supposed to be the essence of 'God'.