Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Fire and life incarnate now and forever!!!!!!! 💃
And that should be it. The Phoenix being the embodiment of all life in the multiverse, past, present, and future, is cool. That would still put her near the top of the hierarchy. Phoenix being the embodiment of everything? 😘
Originally posted by K Von Doom
Your last paragraph is a bit odd. I agree with you that IF the Infinity Gauntlet was as powerful as the Heart of the Universe, the wielder would be able to absorb the Living Tribunal with little trouble. Problem is - that's a big IF.
What proof do we have that it's not? It's not like once you have it you are supreme, look at how pathetic Nebula was it compared to Thanos. All the HOTU is is limitless energy, the IG has that too. So, I don't see how they differ in terms of power, the only difference seems in terms of application of said power.
With the Heart of the Universe, Thanos was easily able to overcome the Living Tribunal.
With the Infinity Gauntlet:
- Thanos was momentarily drained by Quasar
- Thanos was equalled by Maelstrom, in an alternate reality (still part of the Multiverse)
- The Living Tribunal didn't interfere with Thanos because he only sought to replace Eternity - Thanos wasn't a threat to the wider multiverse.
- Thanos was still affected by the powers of Order/Chaos & Love/Hate
- The LT didnt intervene when Nebula obtained the Gauntlet because the Living Tribunal sees the future (as agreed to by Warlock during his trial) and Nebula's eventual defeat.
- Warlock was "challenged" by the Living Tribunal (Would Thanos with the Heart of the Universe be challenged by the LT?)
There are more instances that imply the Gauntlet's inferiority to the Heart.
What proof do we have that the Infinity Gauntlet IS equal to the Heart of the Universe?
Saying that the Infinity Gauntlet is equal to the Heart of the Universe means you're essentially saying that each reality's original 'Infinite Being' is greater than the cosmic judge of all realities.
Originally posted by K Von Doom
With the Heart of the Universe, Thanos was easily able to overcome the Living Tribunal.With the Infinity Gauntlet:
- Thanos was momentarily drained by Quasar
- Thanos was equalled by Maelstrom, in an alternate reality (still part of the Multiverse)
- The Living Tribunal didn't interfere with Thanos because he only sought to replace Eternity - Thanos wasn't a threat to the wider multiverse.
- Thanos was still affected by the powers of Order/Chaos & Love/Hate
- The LT didnt intervene when Nebula obtained the Gauntlet because the Living Tribunal sees the future (as agreed to by Warlock during his trial) and Nebula's eventual defeat.
- Warlock was "challenged" by the Living Tribunal (Would Thanos with the Heart of the Universe be challenged by the LT?)
Originally posted by K Von Doom
With the Heart of the Universe, Thanos was easily able to overcome the Living Tribunal.With the Infinity Gauntlet:
- Thanos was momentarily drained by Quasar
- Thanos was equalled by Maelstrom, in an alternate reality (still part of the Multiverse)
- The Living Tribunal didn't interfere with Thanos because he only sought to replace Eternity - Thanos wasn't a threat to the wider multiverse.
- Thanos was still affected by the powers of Order/Chaos & Love/Hate
- The LT didnt intervene when Nebula obtained the Gauntlet because the Living Tribunal sees the future (as agreed to by Warlock during his trial) and Nebula's eventual defeat.
- Warlock was "challenged" by the Living Tribunal (Would Thanos with the Heart of the Universe be challenged by the LT?)There are more instances that imply the Gauntlet's inferiority to the Heart.
What proof do we have that the Infinity Gauntlet IS equal to the Heart of the Universe?
Saying that the Infinity Gauntlet is equal to the Heart of the Universe means you're essentially saying that each reality's original 'Infinite Being' is greater than the cosmic judge of all realities.
All you've shown is THANOS was inferior to HOTU with Infinity Gauntlet. Like I said, both are just limitless energy, how are they not equal?
I said that the IG is equal in power to the HOTU, because both have limitless power.
Originally posted by Lord S
What was it?
This would have a multiversal effect.
When LT went against the star bands, the effect effect on chaos , and order had an effect on the whole multiverse.
Order and chaos also exist beyond Eternity.
In the nexus of all reality is like there realm ........
Originally posted by kgkgI believe he only affected Chaos and Order in the 616 reality...as the supreme ruler of the reality, he could shut them out and assume their abstract roles.
He was able to trap chaos and order.This would have a multiversal effect.
When LT went against the star bands, the effect effect on chaos , and order had an effect on the whole multiverse.
Order and chaos also exist beyond Eternity.
In the nexus of all reality is like there realm ........
Originally posted by Lord S
I believe he only affected Chaos and Order in the 616 reality...as the supreme ruler of the reality, he could shut them out and assume their abstract roles.
Scene when is there deferent Chaos and Order.
Anytime they show Order, chaos they have been in the space beyond Eternity( multiverse space lol)
Anyway
If you effect Order, Chaos the effect will reach the multiverse , just like when beyonder killed death it was having a multiversal effect.
And you don't need have power over the multiverse to affect it
Originally posted by K Von Doom
I would have to disagree with the Order and Chaos thing.Korvac reality: Chaos grew to an immense size, Chaos decreased. Didn't have any effects anywhere else.
Did you read the Quasar Comics?
Where Lt goes against Starbands.
And in the nexus of Reality, both chaos, and order are together.
They are not universal
When MM ( cube was battleing Beyonder)
Again you see Chaos , and Order in a multiversal realm beyond Eternity
They have even said it them self that They are not part of eternity
Originally posted by K Von Doom
The Korvac Saga... and the alternate reality that spawned from it... happened back in the late 80s... so if it's not having any effects now, it's taking a really long time
Marvel gets mixed up with universe and multiverse often
So far
- Nexus of reality
- Is a balance of the multiverse ( quasar)
- They exist beyond Eternity
Etc