Originally posted by who?-kid
Onslaught all the way. Too powerful for Thanos.
You are seriously overrating Onslaughts power. He is not way too powerful for Thanos. Not at all. Onslaught is not skyfather level especially without FR's power which he never fully had anyway. His biggest feats under his own power are nothing to Thanos'.
Thanos also isn't Skyfather level.
But of course, what is "Onslaught" ? There's quite a difference in power level in the different incarnations.
But still, I give it too Onslaught, don't care what incarnation. I wouldn't be surprised one bit if the incredible telepathic abilities of Onslaught would fry Thanos brains. And if that doesn't work => he has still his durability and strength (both above those of Thanos).
<<You are seriously overrating Onslaughts power. He is not way too powerful for Thanos. Not at all. Onslaught is not skyfather level especially without FR's power which he never fully had anyway. His biggest feats under his own power are nothing to Thanos'.>>
that's because he never really HAD any feats, gs. what do we know about onslaught? it basically took the life force of all the greatest heroes to defeat him. before that he was easily beating the avengers, hulk, xmen -- with nate and cable -- and the ff. even thor couldn't do a thing to him. could thanos battle that combined collection? probably, but it sure as hell wouldn't be 'easy'. especially considering hulk and nate managed to hang with/thwart thanos just the 2 of them when nate armored hulk in tk armor in some annual (hulk or xman?) it took a CRAZY strong hulk to just pierce onslaught's armor and that apparently only made him stronger!
anyway, without gadgets or planning, can't see this being a clear win at all for thanos and with onslaught's telepathic powers i'd say he has a definite shot at this. i'd say both fit nicely in that category below skyfather but above herald. of course, this ia all speculation because onslaught just wasn't around long enough to know for sure.
Originally posted by who?-kid
Thanos also isn't Skyfather level.But of course, what is "Onslaught" ? There's quite a difference in power level in the different incarnations.
But still, I give it too Onslaught, don't care what incarnation. I wouldn't be surprised one bit if the incredible telepathic abilities of Onslaught would fry Thanos brains. And if that doesn't work => he has still his durability and strength (both above those of Thanos).
You need to read up on Thanos WK. He too has incredibly powerful psychic powers, extremely resilient mental shields and an indomitable will to back it up. Onslaught would not win by psychic means and thats his main avenue of attack. Hulk busted open Onslaughts psychic armour whilst Thanos takes on the likes of Hercules, Hulk and Thor singlehandedly and punks Silver Surfer like he's nothing.
On top of all of that he has all of the powers inherent to him as an eternal. Have a read up on him.
Thanos would win this.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
You need to read up on Thanos WK. He too has incredibly powerful psychic powers, extremely resilient mental shields and an indomitable will to back it up
Onslaught would not win by psychic means and thats his main avenue of attack. Hulk busted open Onslaughts psychic armour whilst Thanos takes on the likes of Hercules, Hulk and Thor singlehandedly and punks Silver Surfer like he's nothing.
And the Hulk thing... Hulk was extremely mad (read : strong), and Onslaught still owned him. It was only in the final punch that Hulk broke his armor (that, by the way, already was broken - a bit - and some people say it was all part of Onslaughts plan).
Originally posted by who?-kid
That's funny, Onslaught has the same thing, but only stronger.
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You know what happened to Juggernaut. Thanos would also beat Juggernaut, but would it be as ridiculously easy for Thanos as it was for Onslaught ?And the Hulk thing... Hulk was extremely mad (read : strong), and Onslaught still owned him. It was only in the final punch that Hulk broke his armor (that, by the way, already was broken - a bit - and some people say it was all part of Onslaughts plan).
At the end of the day Onslaught held off all the heroes with a shield and attacked them from behind that with a few E.M.P waves. Under his own power Onslaught is a mega powerful mutant, however he is not cosmic level. He is below skyfather. Magneto on his own has fought the Xmen and Avengers as has Exodus. Its not a feat that puts hi up there with Thanos im afraid. When Onslaughts shields got broken down and he had to fight his enemies face to face he got taken down. Thanos takes on the hulk, Thor and Hercules head on, singlehandedly and wins. Thanos takes out heralds like theyre nothing. He's done this to the dreaded Fallen One, SS and Terrax.
Thanos' own psychic prowess virtually nullifys Onslaughts main form of attack. Magnetos powers wouldnt win against Thanos he's Silver Surfer lite and Thanos punks the real things like theyre nothing.
When you have two powerful telepaths who both have indomitable wills then their powers basically cancel each other out. This is supported by Cables actions in his own comic when fughting against the Dark Mother they were telepathically on par so they had to fight physically as it was pointless. All Onslaught has to fall back on is his magnetic abilities while Thanos has all of his eternal attributes.
Thanos wins this.
gs, how do you answer the fact that nate and hulk ALONE held off thanos? not only that, thanos DID engage hulk thor and herc but he did not 'beat' them. the battle never ended. how do you think thanos would win? blasting him? i doubt it - onslaught's shields would hold up to them, maybe his armor. punching him? couldn't see that either - the hulk in tk armor was pummeling thanos, and the hulk that broke the armor was likely stronger than thanos as well, so physical power wouldn't do it. nowhere does it say he can (on his own) alter reality or do things at skyfather-level. he is invulnerable to 'most' psychic attacks but there is a chance onslught could affect him there as well. i really can't see there being a clear winner in this fight.
Originally posted by leonidas
gs, how do you answer the fact that nate and hulk ALONE held off thanos? not only that, thanos DID engage hulk thor and herc but he did not 'beat' them. the battle never ended. how do you think thanos would win? blasting him? i doubt it - onslaught's shields would hold up to them, maybe his armor. punching him? couldn't see that either - the hulk in tk armor was pummeling thanos, and the hulk that broke the armor was likely stronger than thanos as well, so physical power wouldn't do it. nowhere does it say he can (on his own) alter reality or do things at skyfather-level. he is invulnerable to 'most' psychic attacks but there is a chance onslught could affect him there as well. i really can't see there being a clear winner in this fight.
Nate was the strongest psionic on the planet and Hulk was the strongest physical force so holding back a Thanos who was trapped in another dimension and wasnt there in person at full power is a good feat for those two but hardly says anything bad against Thanos. Onslaught tackled Hulk in person and got dealt with. Whereas Thanos through a dimensional rift frazzled hulk into a gamma irradiated slag heap.
How do you think Onslaught would win? Certainly not through psychic means. Thats his main weapon out of the window. His Surfer-lite (Magneto powers) would be laughed off by Thanos and what else is there? We know Thanos cant die. As the heroes proved Onslaught is an energy being that can be contained, Thanos is ceratinly capable of that. It is just speculation that the Hulk who broke that armour was stronger than Thanos. Especially when you consider Thanos' own strength enables him to dominate fights with multiple class 100 powerhouses, hold his own against both Tyrant and Odin and so on. That physical strength can also be augmented by cosnic energies and also telekinetically as all Eternals can. Id have a guess and say Thanos would be capable of breaking the armour as well Leo.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Nate was the strongest psionic on the planet and Hulk was the strongest physical force so holding back a Thanos who was trapped in another dimension and wasnt there in person at full power is a good feat for those two but hardly says anything bad against Thanos. Onslaught tackled Hulk in person and got dealt with. Whereas Thanos through a dimensional rift frazzled hulk into a gamma irradiated slag heap.How do you think Onslaught would win? Certainly not through psychic means. Thats his main weapon out of the window. His Surfer-lite (Magneto powers) would be laughed off by Thanos and what else is there? We know Thanos cant die. As the heroes proved Onslaught is an energy being that can be contained, Thanos is ceratinly capable of that. It is just speculation that the Hulk who broke that armour was stronger than Thanos. Especially when you consider Thanos' own strength enables him to dominate fights with multiple class 100 powerhouses, hold his own against both Tyrant and Odin and so on. That physical strength can also be augmented by cosnic energies and also telekinetically as all Eternals can. Id have a guess and say Thanos would be capable of breaking the armour as well Leo.