Hulk in the gauntlet!
(Note: In every progressing match The Hulk will get angrier, so yah yah strength increases etc)
0: Sasquatch
1: Hercules
2: Wonderwoman w/o magical weaponry
3: Namor -Fresh out of water-
4: Thor w/o mjolnir
5: Gladiator( confidence varies)
6: Drax
7: Classic Juggernaut
8: Ironman w/ hulk buster armor
9: Spiked Thing & Ultimate Collosus
10: Angry Superman
11: Doomsday
if its just a physical fight then he has the potential to go all the way. none of the others possesse limitless physical strength , and hulk can match and surpass these guys physically. might have a prob around the angry supes area as supes could well be written i dont know sucking in radiation from the sun to get stronger or something like that . wonder woman, hulk would bone her then eat her
I never see this actually asnwered. Is Hulks rage limitess?
About the gauntlet. He gets past Sasquatch, Fresh out of water Namor (if he stays on land he will get weaker with the time) classic Doomsday, Spikey Thing and Ultimate Colosssus. I also see him taking Gladiator - if - hes not confident, or has doubts in the fight.
The rest are too skilled or more durable than Hulk so im in doubts. Not to mention being in his range of strengh.
"wonderwomans base strength is higher than hulks. she throws him to the moon where he suffocates and dies"
You mean higher than a base level Hulk, wich is the level of strenght Doc Samson has.
When he gets pissed, no she isent. And that tactic in comics doesnt work much. Superman tried on Doomsday and didnt managed it. Gladiator tried on Hulk and didnt worked the same.
Hulk has never been shown to have a limit to his rage - NEVER - this is for a reason as placing limitations on a power said to be limitless kind of defeats the point (you may want to take it up with Marvel if you disagree). I will always stand by and say that NO physical feat is too great for the Hulk - one way or another he will eventually surpass all - and if there is no time limit for him to complete the gauntlett then im afraid they all go down eventually.
People tend to forget that not only does his strength increase with his anger, so does his durability, healing, reflexes etc.
"Hulk has never been shown to have a limit to his rage - NEVER - this is for a reason as placing limitations on a power said to be limitless kind of defeats the point"
His rage isent limitess. And while impressive hes yet to surpass other beings that destroyed galaxies and use planets as weapons against a mad Thanos.
While i cant recall the exact issue in Pads first run Hulk admited talking about a certain beings power that he could work on his anger for weeks and would achieve that level. Ill try to find of who he was refering to.
For what ive seen, his strenght -is- limitess but since his rage isent, he only gets so far. Wich is still above the top tier. Its a setback.
Another point is ironically, is that he shows those high levels when hes lifting or destroying something, not when he is figthing others of the same tier.
So going by comics, some guys here have stalemated him more than once and in my book can make it again.
Also in a final analisys he can get overpowered and knocked out. Like he recently was in 3 punches. And yes, it was Savage Hulk.
It seems that Namor and Thor are... excuse the pun, watered down.
Namor would hang with hulk for a while but the get weaker and beat. Thor on the otherhand without using the hammer has locked up with Hulk for an hour. Increading his strength to match the Hulks.
I think Hulk stops there. Although if engaging Namor in water, hed lose to him.
All this is If he beats Wonder Woman ofcourse. But i dont see it happening.
its no use using dcs strength range against marvels, besides hulk has liftes 300 000 tonneds like nothing many times without being particularly enraged. strength wise guys no one can equal hulk potentially as he can alwys get stronger. i dont understand how guys on here cant get there head round this. be it supes, ww, juggie, anyone, evntually hulk can overpower anyone physically. his character was created to physically do the impossible at times. and thats his potential. superman would be the biggest problem on there as as a character he too was designed to do impossible feats regularly and is always written just powerful enough to handle whatever it is he needs to do. i dont like him though as a character, very much a character based on growing powers all the time to suit his needs. any way back to hulk. please read about his past achievements and his actual characteristics b4 laying claims of limitations and the what not
"strength wise guys no one can equal hulk potentially as he can alwys get stronger. i dont understand how guys on here cant get there head round this. be it supes, ww, juggie, anyone, evntually hulk can overpower anyone physically. his character was created to physically do the impossible at times"
At times being the word. He has the limitess strenght wich is fuel by his rage, however rage itself isent limitess.
That PAD comic i talked about has Grey Hulk admitting that his savage persona could rage for a month and would never aproach Sattanish. This means non limites rage. Wich is what Hulk needs to become stronger.
So far he has become more than the top tier (never more than Celestials or the like) however how you so well put it, on fights against others of his tier of strength he usually stalemates. Its also good to take into consideration its easier to lift something than to fight someone strong or almost as you.
in a pure brawl, hulk's strength will continually increase until he is stronger than anyone. that as stated by marvel and stan lee. all these opponents with 2 exceptions have finite strength. hulk RARELY loses in slugfests - usually stalemates in short fights. it took about a dozen avengers to actually ko hulk. who knocked hulk cold with 3 punches?
hulk would eventually beat all of these opponents in a brawl except doomsday who can increase his own strength to match hulk's - as he was becoming stronger to battle superman. the other one who might match him by increasing strength would be drax WITH the power gem. he too would have a limitless well of strength to draw on. these would likely stalemate hulk. the gem i suppose COULD grant drax greater strength than even hulk could reach, but since hulk's strength defies physical limitations (as stated by stan lee himself) im not sure about that.
glads and supes COULD beat him, but it would require brains and use of powers other than their strength. they would lose in pure brawls as would the others.
juggs is another question. i think theoretically hulk's strength could grow to the point where it would surpass cytorrak's influence, but that's just speculation.
hulk has crushed sasquatch and thor w/o his hammer in the past. fights against herc have been inconclusive but given time hulk would become too strong and take him.
hulk truly is 'the strongest one there is!'
"in a pure brawl, hulk's strength will continually increase until he is stronger than anyone. that as stated by marvel and stan lee. all these opponents with 2 exceptions have finite strength. hulk RARELY loses in slugfests "
It will grow up until very high levels but not infinite. His strenght is limitess yes but what makes it work its rage. He needs the rage, wich by what Hulk said before isnt limitess. See what i mean? He has limitess capability for strenght, but since rage isent the same way its a setback. At least for what ive read sounds correct.
Hulk has lost some slugfests too. By memory: Abomination, some knights on another dimension, HulkKillerHumanoid, Arisen, Klattu, had to ask Apocalypse to let him go, Onslaught etc. Had limbs broken like Ultron in Secret Wars etc. etc.
"- usually stalemates in short fights. it took about a dozen avengers to actually ko hulk. who knocked hulk cold with 3 punches?"
Dozen Avengers didnt knocked out Hulk. Wman, Herc and She Hulk charged into him and Herc gave 3 shots that made him go down. The rest of the Avengers didnt do anything. They wer cannon fodder.
Recently in Marvel team up # 11 he was knocked out in 3 shots. Savage Hulk btw.
"doomsday who can increase his own strength to match hulk's - as he was becoming stronger to battle superman"
Doomsday in the end was getting weaker. You can see that because Superman for the first time manages to break one of his bones and states this.
"hulk has crushed sasquatch and thor w/o his hammer in the past"
Crushed Sasquatch when he didnt had the original strenght. First figth iirc was a stalemate. Thor/without hammer has been down but not beaten. " Crushed"? He never crushed any of the top tier so far at -theyr best.-
With the exception of Abomination, ill grant him that.
"fights against herc have been inconclusive but given time hulk would become too strong and take him. "
His rage fluctuates some. If it actually gets high as we`ve seen in some of his feats theres no way ill give Herc a win. If he does like his usual level, he wont. And its a stalemate. I actually belive Herc has means of winning, but not like he is portraited in most of his appearances. And never the majority.
<<It will grow up until very high levels but not infinite. His strenght is limitess yes but what makes it work its rage. He needs the rage, wich by what Hulk said before isnt limitess. See what i mean? He has limitess capability for strenght, but since rage isent the same way its a setback. At least for what ive read sounds correct.>>
how did you arrive at the notion that his rage has a limit? where is it written (you said you read it) that emotions are finite concepts?
<<Abomination, some knights on another dimension, HulkKillerHumanoid, Arisen, Klattu, had to ask Apocalypse to let him go, Onslaught etc. Had limbs broken like Ultron in Secret Wars etc. etc.>>
ha. klattu was some mile tall space giant/god. onslaught was wielding reality warping power and no one else present, including thor, could even get NEAR him. hulk held his own for a long while and was ko'd by the energy burst resulting from the explosion of the armor. onslaught himself did not ko hulk. he's beat abom enough times not to bother refuting that. apoc was holding him but that's it - it was never a fight. the droid is just stupid and in sw he also held up a friggin mountain range.
<<Dozen Avengers didnt knocked out Hulk. Wman, Herc and She Hulk charged into him and Herc gave 3 shots that made him go down. The rest of the Avengers didnt do anything. They wer cannon fodder.>>
they were still present and i doubt the 3 you mentioned would have beaten him without the others when ironman wonderman namor and hercules couldn't put him down earlier. to say they might have but for samson's interference, would be speculation. maybe they would have, but maybe not.
<<Doomsday in the end was getting weaker. You can see that because Superman for the first time manages to break one of his bones and states this.>>
superman says dd is getting weaker? i'll need to check that. all through the fight he got faster and stronger and i KNOW supes said that.
<<Crushed Sasquatch when he didnt had the original strenght. First figth iirc was a stalemate. Thor/without hammer has been down but not beaten. " Crushed"? He never crushed any of the top tier so far at -theyr best.- >>
original strength? huh? you talking about hulk annual 8? hulk beat the crap out of sasquatch in that and was ready to finish him but for an avalanche. not sure what you mean by 'original' strength. and hulk would have killed thor in that battle (thor 385 i think) without his hammer. hulk left the fight because he had the answer he wanted - he was stronger than thor, even though thor wanted to go on. if you don't think hulk won that fight, you'd better read it again. bloodlusted hulk WOULDN'T have stopped and would have killed thor. the same would happen to herc eventually.
hulk is strongest and in a slugfest, unless someone can tap some infinite reserve, they will eventually lose - at least in theory - to the hulk.