Hulk in the gauntlet!

Originally posted by leonidas
[B]<<Theres one. If you have infinity power already, how can it have a limit to another level. That wouldnt be infinity>>

there are an infinite scale of infinities. 😉 half of infinity is still infinity but it is less than the full scale infinity. infinity + 1 is greater than infinity and infinity - 1 is still infinity but less than the 'full' infinity. scales of infinity are mathematical realities and are used in higher order math all the time. they are mathematical certainties. if you don't believe me, read for yourself. this is a simple example but explains what i mean perfectly:
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Well done

Marvel did a nice example on this infinite crap.

Cubes < Celestials < Eternity < IG < LT

All have infite power but ones is better or stronger than the others.

<<Well done
Marvel did a nice example on this infinite crap.
Cubes < Celestials < Eternity < IG < LT
All have infite power but ones is better or stronger than the others.>>

thanks kg. and that is PRECISELY what i was getting at. 🙂

"living in a black hole is nothing in comics. basically you just need to be able to exceed light speed to stay away from the singularity and be able to escape at will"

In comics, none of the impossible cosmic forces are written as such. They all jobb.

"he much have an infinite source of fuel - ie - rage, frustration."

Hes only stated to have the infinity suplly i.e - strenght.

"you're quibbling by saying it's somehow different standing in the middle of the 2 orbs than it is punching one away."

But it is. Its not a matter of position, by punching one away he wasent overcoming the attraction of the two forces. If it was the same he would overcome what he was doing already. But it was a change of tactics.

"seperating them, however he could"

Well he didnt showed it. But im not getting upset or anything by this, i like this debate wich the two having different views 😉 I respect your opinion.

About the infinity scales. I can see the logic on it. His strenght his indeed infinity for me, its the rest i debate. I can see his infinity strenght being on a lower scale then say a Celestial. Thats only logical. The problem is that he needs something to fuel that we have no certain of being the same nature, while those "others" dont.

I need to stop hearing the word "infinity" for a week. 😖hifty: i kid, i kid.

Ill check the other fights of Black Bolt out of curiosity if i manage to get them.

<<by punching one away he wasent overcoming the attraction of the two forces.>>

were the forces of attraction still bringing them together? yes
did hulk seperate them by punching one? yes
therefore hulk overcame the attractive force between them by generating enough force with a punch to send one . . . wherever he sent it. orbit or something.

if he stopped them from coming together, clearly he overcame the attractive force between them. doens't matter which 'tactic' he employed to do so. 😕

given time and increasing rage, juggs and doomsday (the highest level doomsday) are the only ones who could stand up to hulk in this gauntlet. and drax with a gem only because i'm still not sure drax can increase his strength a la hulk.

olympian my ignorant apprentice i didnt contradict myself at all. just stated that in comics hulk cant be shown exploiting his limitless potential all the time or else he would never lose. perhaps if he was a bit part player like a classic juggie maybe, but hey he has his own comics to sell. u have to look at what hulk is capable of and done. he is capable of anything physically, thats what he is. and what he has done is pretty much evidence of his limitless strength /healing potentuial er thank u my little penal gland

"if he stopped them from coming together, clearly he overcame the attractive force between them. doens't matter which 'tactic' he employed to do so"

You cant have it both ways. Punching one of the orbs away its not overcoming the attraction force. Either he resisted -that- force or he failed and punched one away so there was no impossible/attraction force to be overcomed.

Lets leave it at that, its clear we read it different ways. Wich is fine by me.

"olympian my ignorant apprentice i didnt contradict myself at all.

Yes you did. And worst of me if i was your apprentice. r-e-a-d.

"just stated that in comics hulk cant be shown exploiting his limitless potential all the time or else he would never lose. perhaps if he was a bit part player like a classic juggie maybe, but hey he has his own comics to sell"

Congratulations. You just defined -every- top hero. The best wishes in your nursery resident.

Use Spellcheck for the rest.

while hulk has potntial limitless strength, it remains just that. potential. against heavy hitters hulk often holds too much damage too quickly beofre he can go wild. hulk has been beaten several times before he "maxxed out". fist for fist, wonderwoman will clean his clock similar to what juggernaut did when he was in plainclothes and they fought in the amazon. and ww is stronger, faster, and a better fighter than juggs and hulk (at hulks base).

that was prof hulk - savage hulk laid a beating on juggs in an earlier encounter though he did not ko him. prof hulk also was overconfident and holding back not knowing who he was fighting.

<<You cant have it both ways. Punching one of the orbs away its not overcoming the attraction force. Either he resisted -that- force or he failed and punched one away so there was no impossible/attraction force to be overcomed.>>

why is punching something away not considered seperating them to you? by rights the blow should have been ineffectual and the orbs should have been drawn together regardless. whether he pushed them away or punched one away doesn't matter. the attractive force never left, the orb he punched was still being drawn to the other one. we'll leave it, that's fine, i just can't see how you're differentiating the accomplishments.

The writter doesnt seem to consider them the same either or he wouldnt have stated Hulk losing it and having Spiderman asking him to punch one away so that the main character would be safe. Its granted that if he had the strenght to move them inches apart, even he was failing while doing it, he had to punch an orb.

Wich was what happened. Orb away. No more attraction forces to deal with. Everyones safe.

And Leonidas, it is an accomplish. Just one i see where he reached a limit. We agree to disagree.