The Official BLEACH series Thread

Originally posted by dadudemon
Ishida is most cetainly a genius and he's black haired.

Ulq is most certainly one of the smarter characters and he's black haired.

Aizen is the smartest character (maybe) and he's brown haired.

Urahara is the second smartest and he's blonde.

Inoue is one of the smartest from Ichigo's group (she always has one of the highest grades) and she's a red-head.

But Gin and Tōshirō are the only ones who've been referred to as prodigies, and they're white haired.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Nice try. But read my post again.

Then you'll realize you made two paragraphs on just one sentence that missed my entire point and instead, mistakes the context of those words entirely just so you could pretend my point fit your false criteria for your point.

Oh, so you can pretend to miss the point but I can't? For your information I was highlighting the only bit where you actually used the correct words in the correct context. The rest of your post missed the point entirely, so they were irrelevent.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Also, I'll note that I never demanded proof. 🙂 Go back and read my posts. 🙂

Originally posted by dadudemon
Prove that all of his actions were mundane or stupid.

I like how you used the word 'all'. You really must have thought we'd go through the entire manga looking all hes done. Lol.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Edit - How about this. A new approach for all three of you.

What about Ulq makes you think he was average in intelligence? What do you think he did, thought, or said, that show his intelligence as being average to below average for all characters in Bleach?

If any of you three provide a decent answer, I will spend the 5 hours required to find evidence of my position of good intelligence. I think my position is obvious and only people trolling because they are bored would claim positions contrary. I can already think of 3 thinks Ulq did that put his intelligence pretty fair up there as far as Bleach characters go. Yet, you guys can only think of mundane things he did? Something tells me none of you are being honest but seek only to troll because you're bored.

An example of a way to prove your positions: "Starrk did x in a similar position as Ulq. Ulq did y. Starrks' was clearly more intelligent." Or, "Ulq observed x in this situation. Ukitake observed y in the same position but did so more quickly or with much better insight."

Go ahead, be my guest. After you convince me that you're serious about this discussion and not just being trolls, I will definitely spend the long ass time required to show you why you all know you are just trolling.

That, or you could just google search all the arguments that have already been done for why Ulq is a fairly smart character by Bleach standards. 😬

For christs sake DDM. Stop being a moron, get off your high-horse and open your goddamn ears. No-one ever said he was average. We said nothing shows him to be 'certainly one of the smarter characters' as you put it. Average is the default level. If nothing shows him to be above that level, then he isn't. Stop being a self-righteous dick and actually try to comprehend what we're saying. Has anyone apart from you once used the words 'average' or 'mundane' before this post? No. All we said was that theres a lack of evidence for the SUPAR ENTELLIGENCE that you claimed he had, asked you to back up your opinion and when you didn't called bullshit. You're the only twisting our words to try to move the discussion in the direction you want it to.

Let me say it clear as crystal: That I know of, Ulquiorra has never done anything that is impressive from an intelligence perspective. I am not ruling out the posibility of above average intellect, but I can recall absolutely nothing that shows him to be as such. I am not calling him average or below average in terms of intelligence. I am saying nothing indicates otherwise.

****ing LOL at those accusations of trolling. You must be laughing your ass off at your own audacity, troll. And you can GTFO with that offer. We don't need to win the right to hear your arguments. If you're not going to argue then you're a coward who can't admit that you were wrong and a troll for pushing an issue you claim not to care about.

Btw, for someone who is too lazy to actually argue you sure don't mind writing up 2000 words just to not be wrong. Hmmm, how odd. Its almost like you're full of shit. ✅

dadudemon is one of the better, more subtle trolls on this board.

"Provide evidence that Ulquiorra is average in intelligence," lol, gtfo of here.

Lesse here....

I wouldn't call Ulquiorra stupid(and none of you are really) nor would I call him extremely smart. He rationalized what Aizen was doing in regards to Orihime but exactly how true his rationalization was can be called into question. Aizen seemed to have just used her as a red herring to split Soul Society forces. The amount of distrust it caused might have been just an additional bonus.

As far as combat goes...I've never seen Ulquiorra do anything smart in combat. Or at least, I don't remember it. Grimmjow showed more combat smarts, like when he used the Ass pull cube to BFR Ulquiorra.

So yeah...not that I'm interested in how smart Ulquiorra is.

Originally posted by NemeBro
dadudemon is one of the better, more subtle trolls on this board.

"Provide evidence that Ulquiorra is average in intelligence," lol, gtfo of here.

/he's an *******.

The Plague is indeed cunning. He walks from thread to thread, they say, hooded and cloaked in doughnuts, and everywhere his fallacies slip past our rage-nets.

Really, I am not saying Ulquiorra is stupid, or even necessarily "average" in intelligence.

He is level-headed and decently cunning, I guess.

But nowhere near the level of child prodigies, aka the people Astner brought up.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Oh, so you can pretend to miss the point but I can't? For your information I was highlighting the only bit where you actually used the correct words in the correct context. The rest of your post missed the point entirely, so they were irrelevent.

I like how you used the word 'all'. You really must have thought we'd go through the entire manga looking all hes done. Lol.

For christs sake DDM. Stop being a moron, get off your high-horse and open your goddamn ears. No-one ever said he was average. We said nothing shows him to be 'certainly one of the smarter characters' as you put it. Average is the default level. If nothing shows him to be above that level, then he isn't. Stop being a self-righteous dick and actually try to comprehend what we're saying. Has anyone apart from you once used the words 'average' or 'mundane' before this post? No. All we said was that theres a lack of evidence for the SUPAR ENTELLIGENCE that you claimed he had, asked you to back up your opinion and when you didn't called bullshit. You're the only twisting our words to try to move the discussion in the direction you want it to.

Let me say it clear as crystal: [b]That I know of, Ulquiorra has never done anything that is impressive from an intelligence perspective. I am not ruling out the posibility of above average intellect, but I can recall absolutely nothing that shows him to be as such. I am not calling him average or below average in terms of intelligence. I am saying nothing indicates otherwise.

****ing LOL at those accusations of trolling. You must be laughing your ass off at your own audacity, troll. And you can GTFO with that offer. We don't need to win the right to hear your arguments. If you're not going to argue then you're a coward who can't admit that you were wrong and a troll for pushing an issue you claim not to care about.

Btw, for someone who is too lazy to actually argue you sure don't mind writing up 2000 words just to not be wrong. Hmmm, how odd. Its almost like you're full of shit. ✅ [/B]

1. Calm down: don't be so mad.

2. I already owned everything you wasted your time typing up. It's hard to imagine that you're over 30 when you post like a raging 14-year-old.

3. I've already outlined how you should be responding. We will get no where until you follow that path.

4. I didn't read anything in your post but I saw lots of asterisks (refer back to point #1). Did you actually have anything meaningful to add or are you really raging? Try to sum up in 3 sentences or less.

edit -

5. Read that last comment because it had a smilie face. So your saying hours of work is equivalent to 5 minutes of typing? HA! You're hilarious!

Originally posted by NemeBro
dadudemon is one of the better, more subtle trolls on this board.

"Provide evidence that Ulquiorra is average in intelligence," lol, gtfo of here.

Funny. You three are the ones trolling me. Did you even read the shit post of raging troll from Nephthys?

The only person that even tried to be objective is AA...and he and I argue about everything. 😐

I'm always objective.

Except when it comes to Rukia. I'm willing to let shitty arcs get away with being shitty simply because she is in it.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Funny. You three are the ones trolling me. Did you even read the shit post of raging troll from Nephthys?

The only person that even tried to be objective is AA...and he and I argue about everything. 😐

Objective about what? I'm not going to read the duration of Ulquiorra's time in Bleach so I can jot down all the cleverness and intelligence he has ever demonstrated so that I can then conclude what level of intelligence he has and then compare it to the characters who were discussed before. Not while I am starting out Samurai Deeper Kyo, ****er. estahuh

You're the one who made this some super srs argument, hell, I wasn't even asking for scans, I would have accepted "Ulquiorra did this super smart thing", but apparently you were unwilling to even do that, lol.

Honestly I didn't read through it. I was just remembering. Probably forgot a lot. Ah well. :3

Originally posted by dadudemon
The only person that even tried to be objective is AA...and he and I argue about everything. 😐

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
and the fact that that's what most of us are thinking will be proven by the fact that the majority of people who comment on this discussion will do so in my favor, not yours.

Originally posted by dadudemon
1. Calm down: don't be so mad.

2. I already owned everything you wasted your time typing up. It's hard to imagine that you're over 30 when you post like a raging 14-year-old.

3. I've already outlined how you should be responding. We will get no where until you follow that path.

4. I didn't read anything in your post but I saw lots of asterisks (refer back to point #1). Did you actually have anything meaningful to add or are you really raging? Try to sum up in 3 sentences or less.

edit -

5. Read that last comment because it had a smilie face. So your saying hours of work is equivalent to 5 minutes of typing? HA! You're hilarious!

1. I'm not mad. If I was mad I woulda called you worse than a self-righteous dick. I was highly comtempuous and quite sharp with you, but hardly mad.

2. I'm 21. And how can you know that you owned everything I said when you didn't read my post?

3. You don't get to tell me how to post.

4. A single swear word stops you from reading? Someones sensative. And nah, you can scroll up and read what I've already written. I'm just way too super lazy to re-write it.

5. How the hell would it take you 5 hours? Especially when according to you there are already arguments about his intelligence a google search away.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Funny. You three are the ones trolling me. Did you even read the shit post of raging troll from Nephthys?

Did you?

Originally posted by NemeBro
In what way am I trolling you? No, I did not read Nephthys' post, but me referring to you as a troll does not exclude the possibility of others, like Neph, being trolls. Though Nephthys is probably just frustrated. He gets frustrated a lot.

I'm not sure turning into the rage-troll qualifies as "frustration"...especially when it is an archetypal forum "character" known throughout the internetz. He's almost the personification of the that meme, at times.

You're trolling me by deliberately missing my points and pretending I need to do anything when we've all read the same material and you know, at a bare minimum, Ulq is one of the smarter characters.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Objective about what? I'm not going to read the duration of Ulquiorra's time in Bleach so I can jot down all the cleverness and intelligence he has ever demonstrated so that I can then conclude what level of intelligence he has and then compare it to the characters who were discussed before. Not while I am starting out Samurai Deeper Kyo, ****er. estahuh

Keep in mind...that's what you bitches want me to do and you know that's virtual torture for my short attention span. uhuh

Originally posted by NemeBro
You're the one who made this some super srs argument, hell, I wasn't even asking for scans, I would have accepted "Ulquiorra did this super smart thing", but apparently you were unwilling to even do that, lol.

And this is why I said, in the other thread, that I would be willing to bust out 2 or 3 reasons for you...if you don't demand scans because it's a b*tch reading through all the chapters to find one or two panels. Now find my posts on the math about the tree and I'll bust out some brain feats. 😐

I really wasn't raging. 😬

I just don't like you.

Originally posted by Nephthys
1. I'm not mad. If I was mad I woulda called you worse than a self-righteous dick. I was highly comtempuous and quite sharp with you, but hardly mad.

Cool story, bro. Why are you talking to me like you're my father or highschool teacher? It is giving me warm-fuzzies...near my anus. doped

Originally posted by Nephthys
2. I'm 21. And how can you know that you owned everything I said when you didn't read my post?

In what portion of #2 could you have possibly derived such a conclusion? 🙂

Originally posted by Nephthys
3. You don't get to tell me how to post.

I sure do if you're DEMANDING! RAAAGGE AARRGGHGHGHGHGH for me to do something. You do something for me, I'll do something for you. 🙂

Originally posted by Nephthys
4. A single swear word stops you from reading? Someones sensative. And nah, you can scroll up and read what I've already written. I'm just way too super lazy to re-write it.

Not really. More like the wall of text and the general ragey attitude that's not worth responding to (if you want to trick me to reading some of your rage posts in the future...leave out the asterisks and misspell the naughty bits: bassturd instead of bastard, for example...but I'll prolly stop ready after 2 or 3 sentences, anyway). I'm not looking to report you so why would I engage into that portion of the conversation?

Originally posted by Nephthys
5. How the hell would it take you 5 hours? Especially when according to you there are already arguments about his intelligence a google search away.

So the chapters that those appear in are just ready-made and available right there on those vs. forum discussion, right? And then all of the other potentially missed intelligence feats have chapter numbers right next to them, right (yes, I'm saying that a non-exsistant listing for a feat is supposed to have a chapter number next to it on some random vs. forum with Ulq...I know...it doesn't make sense..which is my point).

Originally posted by Nephthys
Did you?

I read the last sentence because I thought you were calmed down or making a joke...and I like jokes. 🙂

Originally posted by Nephthys
I really wasn't raging. 😬

I just don't like you.

You were raging.

And I think you're one of the lowest pieces of shit I have ever come across on the cyber space. I am surprised you're not banned with your bad attitude and shitty posting style. I COULD report you...but that's just douchey and lame.

And, no, I don't think you're a bad poster or person: I'm just trolling you right back in the way you're trolling me. 😐

The only reason not to look up scans is because Bleach is kinda annoying with titles. Does not specify to the extent that One Piece and Naruto do.

That said, this really could have been done with in like 5 posts.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
The only reason not to look up scans is because Bleach is kinda annoying with titles. Does not specify to the extent that One Piece and Naruto do.

Bingo.

Then there's the problem of not knowing when some of the "feats" occured or finding feats that I may not know off the top of my head. Then there's screen shots. Ugh. It's painful. We got into an argument in the Naruto thread a few months back and that was painful.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
That said, this really could have been done with in like 5 posts.

Nah. It would have raged on much longer had I posted anything. I'm still waiting for a comparative analysis from the "opposition" to prove that the feats show his intelligence to be average (meaning, the average character in Bleach could have done the same thing).

It isn't that difficult to find Bleach scans, honestly.

Just go to the Bleach wikia.

Pages have citations of manga chapters and even pages.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Cool story, bro. Why are you talking to me like you're my father or highschool teacher? It is giving me warm-fuzzies...near my anus. doped

Because apparantly I'm 30. Which is a shame, I was looking forward to my 20's.

Originally posted by dadudemon
In what portion of #2 could you have possibly derived such a conclusion? 🙂

Admittedly, none. However, by looking at independant evidence outside of #2 I am reasonably certain that I am in fact 21.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I sure do if you're DEMANDING! RAAAGGE AARRGGHGHGHGHGH for me to do something. You do something for me, I'll do something for you. 🙂

Please show me where I have demanded you do anything. At best I've suggested that the burden of proof is on you.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Not really. More like the wall of text and the general ragey attitude that's not worth responding to (if you want to trick me to reading some of your rage posts in the future...leave out the asterisks and misspell the naughty bits: bassturd instead of bastard, for example...but I'll prolly stop ready after 2 or 3 sentences, anyway). I'm not looking to report you so why would I engage into that portion of the conversation?

So..... you are really sensative? Ok, I'll be sure to tiptoe around you in the future.

Originally posted by dadudemon
So the chapters that those appear in are just ready-made and available right there on those vs. forum discussion, right? And then all of the other potentially missed intelligence feats have chapter numbers right next to them, right (yes, I'm saying that a non-exsistant listing for a feat is supposed to have a chapter number next to it on some random vs. forum with Ulq...I know...it doesn't make sense..which is my point).

We'll when I'm looking for an example from a manga I can remember when it occurred, look it up on a wiki and I can find it within about 10 minutes max. You must be able to remember Ulq doing something clever or you wouldn't have brought up the point. So really unless you're super-incompetent it shouldn't take you more than half an hour to come up with a few examples of Ulq being smart.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I read the last sentence because I thought you were calmed down or making a joke...and I like jokes. 🙂

How can you possibly know my post was a 'shit post of raging troll' if you only read a single sentence?

Originally posted by dadudemon
You were raging.

And I think you're one of the lowest pieces of shit I have ever come across on the cyber space. I am surprised you're not banned with your bad attitude and shitty posting style. I COULD report you...but that's just douchey and lame.

And, no, I don't think you're a bad poster or person: I'm just trolling you right back in the way you're trolling me. 😐

Thanks for your opinion but I think I can judge my own emotional state better than someone who didn't even read the damn post in the first place.