The Official BLEACH series Thread

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Indeed. Neither does failing a well-made plan because of hax and PIS. 😛

He had no option but to wait given how paranoid and prepared Aizen was for anything, never mind waiting to find out the sole weakness of the most broken weapon around and figuring out a way to kill a Shinigami who was still exceptionally powerful without said weapon.
You see Aizen waving KS around like a flag for no reason any time before he got powered up by the Hogyoku and became an extremely overconfident douchebag? Instead of withdrawing his sword, he let Gin hold on to it.
He had to kill Aizen personally. Doubt SS would have allowed Gin to kill him.

His plan was to get Aizen into a position where KS could be neutralized. He succeeded. There would be no point in nuking someone and sacrificing your entire crew if your enemy could just avoid it without a scratch.

Doctors aren't intelligent? 😛
Then how would Ginjo have gotten Ichigo pushed to the point where he wanted power more than anything else?

I agree. Sasuke got gipped.

Except go to Yamamoto. And they would have. His sword is tailor made for it.

Except he did. And I would have used a slightly smaller attack, so as to not kill my teammates to being with. Or create an opening for Soi-fon to do it.

Chopper.
Simple: Let Tsukishima do it instead, while Ginjo plays villain.

How I would have done it: Ichigo is regretting the lose of his powers, boo hoo. On his way home from school, he stops. We see a slash mark. Ichigo comments that he feels like he has been stabbed. We see Ginjo observing with a grin. Next day, a new kid arrives at school. Tsukishima, a friend Ichigo had made in the past. The others make a comment about he never mentioned him and Ichigo cracks back that it didn't feel important to do so. He and his old school friend catch up...and then Tsukishima reveals he knows about Ichigo losing his powers. He asks as a friend for Ichigo to trust him, and he is introduced to the Xcution like normal. Here the story plays out normally: Ichigo comments about how he felt slashed once, and Tsukihsma ponders that it is Ginjo's doing. Ginjo was a former "fullbringer" and caused the Xcution a lot of grief. Ichigo trains to regain his powers, Ginjo starts shit the way Tsukishima did in the canon, la di da. Ichigo perfects his fullbring but Tsukishima brings him startlingly news: Riruka has been captured by Ginjo. Ichigo and Tsukishima go to fight him, the Xcution coming for back up. They all fight and then...Bankai. Ginjo reveals that he has Shinigami powers. He wipes the floor with Ichigo, takes his powers, and plans to leave. Rukia, Isshin, Urahara, and the others show up. Ichigo regains his Shinigami powers. Ginjo is surrounded, all seems well...and then the Xcution stab them in the back. Tsukishima reveals his powers(with a better explanation) and shows himself to be the master mind all along. The Shinigami can't fight due to injuries and the Xcution leave, because it is complete victory for them. Ichigo gains his powers but it's a hollow victory at best. We have the new villains for the next arc, our hero is determined to get revenge against Tsukishima, and stuff.

This is how I would have handled it.

And since it's the start of a new page, I'm going to double post and stretch it out. Lolololol.

Originally posted by Akainu

"I just roll up some clay and punch the shit out of it. I pretend it's my father and go from there with whatever comes out."

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Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
I agree. Sasuke got gipped.

Except go to Yamamoto. And they would have. His sword is tailor made for it.

Except he did. And I would have used a slightly smaller attack, so as to not kill my teammates to being with. Or create an opening for Soi-fon to do it.

Chopper.
Simple: Let Tsukishima do it instead, while Ginjo plays villain.

How I would have done it: Ichigo is regretting the lose of his powers, boo hoo. On his way home from school, he stops. We see a slash mark. Ichigo comments that he feels like he has been stabbed. We see Ginjo observing with a grin. Next day, a new kid arrives at school. Tsukishima, a friend Ichigo had made in the past. The others make a comment about he never mentioned him and Ichigo cracks back that it didn't feel important to do so. He and his old school friend catch up...and then Tsukishima reveals he knows about Ichigo losing his powers. He asks as a friend for Ichigo to trust him, and he is introduced to the Xcution like normal. Here the story plays out normally: Ichigo comments about how he felt slashed once, and Tsukihsma ponders that it is Ginjo's doing. Ginjo was a former "fullbringer" and caused the Xcution a lot of grief. Ichigo trains to regain his powers, Ginjo starts shit the way Tsukishima did in the canon, la di da. Ichigo perfects his fullbring but Tsukishima brings him startlingly news: Riruka has been captured by Ginjo. Ichigo and Tsukishima go to fight him, the Xcution coming for back up. They all fight and then...Bankai. Ginjo reveals that he has Shinigami powers. He wipes the floor with Ichigo, takes his powers, and plans to leave. Rukia, Isshin, Urahara, and the others show up. Ichigo regains his Shinigami powers. Ginjo is surrounded, all seems well...and then the Xcution stab them in the back. Tsukishima reveals his powers(with a better explanation) and shows himself to be the master mind all along. The Shinigami can't fight due to injuries and the Xcution leave, because it is complete victory for them. Ichigo gains his powers but it's a hollow victory at best. We have the new villains for the next arc, our hero is determined to get revenge against Tsukishima, and stuff.

This is how I would have handled it.

Gin's still more intelligent than Hitsugaya. Haven't seen anything to prove otherwise. Only thing you could bring up is Hitsugaya probably being a better child prodigy than even Gin, but even that does not prove it.

No they wouldn't have. Not with their rigid way of thinking. Also pretty sure that deep down, he hates SS as well because it was a Shinigami that attacked Rangiku.

He did after KS was neutralized. Not strategically sound when KS is still in play.

So you are really debating Kubo's intelligence, not Ginjo's.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
And since it's the start of a new page, I'm going to double post and stretch it out. Lolololol.

Douche.

Lol at the scan though.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Gin's still more intelligent than Hitsugaya. Haven't seen anything to prove otherwise. Only thing you could bring up is Hitsugaya probably being a better child prodigy than even Gin, but even that does not prove it.

No they wouldn't have. Not with their rigid way of thinking. Also pretty sure that deep down, he hates SS as well because it was a Shinigami that attacked Rangiku.

He did after KS was neutralized. Not strategically sound when KS is still in play.

So you are really debating Kubo's intelligence, not Ginjo's.

He's alive and Gin isn't. So ha.

Then he is stupid for ignoring the best assistance he could have gotten.

It was neutralized because he had it in his gut. Why not do that from the beginning then? Just charge Aizen, kill Gin and Tousen if they get in the way, Aizen stabs him, and bam, neutralized.

In part yes. But really, if Ginjo had just switched places with Tsukishima it would have worked out for the better. Because Tsukishima is a far better actor.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Douche.

Lol at the scan though.

Serves you right for replying slowly.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
He's alive and Gin isn't. So ha.

Then he is stupid for ignoring the best assistance he could have gotten.

It was neutralized because he had it in his gut. Why not do that from the beginning then? Just charge Aizen, kill Gin and Tousen if they get in the way, Aizen stabs him, and bam, neutralized.

In part yes. But really, if Ginjo had just switched places with Tsukishima it would have worked out for the better. Because Tsukishima is a far better actor.

Serves you right for replying slowly.

A's alive and Minato isn't. vin

Or he just does not want to get assistance from an organization he in all likelihood, detests. Doubt anyone else could have gotten KS's weakness from Aizen.

Or Aizen uses KS to fool them all into stabbing each other, or he stabs Yamamoto in the head.

It worked out well enough. Ginjo got what he wanted, and Ichigo never suspected a thing. Best of all, he got Ichigo to curse his own powerlessness, and indirectly mind-f***ed Ichigo along the way.
He just didn't plan for SS interfering so early, and Ichigo becoming so freaking powerful.

Man.....in hindsight, Nel was the funniest character in Bleach. Only Grimmjow can top her....maybe.

Damn you for not replying to the A & Minato comment. uhuh

Also, nah, Yumichika is teh funniest. Child Nel is pretty funneh though.

No, Nel in general is the funniest.

Nel is quite possibly the one character that can be pointed at to show off Kubo's fault. She was interesting and given a sufficient amount of development.

And then dropped.

That is hilarious.

Eh, I think Yumichika's the funniest since I see him as a parody of people that are narcissistic. That, and his battle with that Charlotte gai was by far the most hilarious battle in Bleach.

I couldn't give a shit about Kubo's faults when it comes to character development. If a character is not Ichigo, Rukia or the main antagonist, they won't be in the spotlight for long. Hell, Rukia could be booted to secondary status in the near future despite the fact that she's supposed to be the deuteragonist.

One thing I haven't really been able tot get my head around is why all the child prodigies in Bleach have white hair. Gin was a prodigy, and Tōshirō is a prodigy. We don't know whether Jūshirō was a prodigy or not, but he's responsible for the soul badge.

And this is not just in Bleach, a lot of white haired characters are supposed geniuses. Why is that?

Because white hair gives off an illusion of age, experience, wisdom, and stuff?

Ishida is most cetainly a genius and he's black haired.

Ulq is most certainly one of the smarter characters and he's black haired.

Aizen is the smartest character (maybe) and he's brown haired.

Urahara is the second smartest and he's blonde.

Inoue is one of the smartest from Ichigo's group (she always has one of the highest grades) and she's a red-head.

What has Ulquiorra done that was particularly intelligent?

Also, he explicitly said "child prodigies", something only Aizen and arguably Ishida can definitely be claimed to be from your list.

Originally posted by NemeBro
What has Ulquiorra done that was particularly intelligent?

Also, he explicitly said "child prodigies", something only Aizen and arguably Ishida can definitely be claimed to be from your list.

He killed Ichigo I guess 😐

Wouldn't Ichigo also fit the child prodigy quota?

Originally posted by NemeBro
What has Ulquiorra done that was particularly intelligent?

Ulq is one of the most intelligent characters in the series. You didn't know that?

Originally posted by NemeBro
Also, he explicitly said "child prodigies", something only Aizen and arguably Ishida can definitely be claimed to be from your list.

I don't know. Ichigo can be a prodigy of sorts. He mastered uber level techs and gained experience in combat, a la Naruto. In fact, Ichigo would probably be the best example of a child prodigy from Bleach...

"Oh, hai Aizens and Yama-jii. I got stronggerz dan you in less den 18 months."

Originally posted by dadudemon
Ulq is one of the most intelligent characters in the series. You didn't know that?

I guess not. 😐

What has he done that was that intelligent? Keep in mind that I can't remember shit before the Deicide Arc, short of some FKT stuff.

know. Ichigo can be a prodigy of sorts. He mastered uber level techs and gained experience in combat, a la Naruto. In fact, Ichigo would probably be the best example of a child prodigy from Bleach...

"Oh, hai Aizens and Yama-jii. I got stronggerz dan you in less den 18 months."

Nah, Yamamoto is obviously still stronger. estahuh

I'm also not sure if Ichigo qualifies as a "child", though yeah, he does progress quickly. Isn't that more due to him being some kind of wacky Hollow/Shinigami hybrid though?

Originally posted by NemeBro
I guess not. 😐

What has he done that was that intelligent? Keep in mind that I can't remember shit before the Deicide Arc, short of some FKT stuff.

I'm sure someone with more time on their hands and a sexier Bleach-realted brain could help you with the scans. I don't care enough about you request to actually be arsed to look stuff up for you. Nothing against you, of course. I just don't feel like wiping your ass in two different threads.

Originally posted by NemeBro
I'm also not sure if Ichigo qualifies as a "child", though yeah, he does progress quickly. Isn't that more due to him being some kind of wacky Hollow/Shinigami hybrid though?

Ichigo was 15 or 16. He's a child-prodigy. Some people are referred to as child-prodigies as late as their early 20s.

Ulquiorra has never done anything that is impressive from an intelligence perspective.

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
Ulquiorra has never done anything that is impressive from an intelligence perspective.

Prove that all of his actions were mundane or stupid.