A question for Christians........

clarify this for me please.

I'm sure you all know that your religion and god is based on Judiism and their sacred text, The Torah. You decided to form your own religion ....keeping the basis of Judiism and the Torah.....but ammending it by adding the "sacred" teachings of a minister, Jesus...............Christ.

Please, intelligently, explain to me why it is not blasphemy to your god to call your religion "Christianity"............named litteraly after the minister who taught your god's word. I believe the first two commandments go something like this (it's been a while)....

Thou Shalt have no other god's before me
Thou Shalt commit unto thee any graven images

the name of your religion is not named after your god, merely a flesh and blood human being who you worship as a part of god.........is not putting his name first in your religion in direct contradiction to the first commandment? Also.......Moses destroyed the Golden Calf.....because it was not an image of god. Why then is it acceptable for your religious symbol to be a cross.....or a man on a cross? It is not an image of god, it is worshipped but is only one of your god's creations. Surely god would take as much offense to you worshipping his creation (jesus) as he would to worshipping another of his creations (the calf). Of all the things you attribute to your god creating.......wouldn't symbols representing the universe and all contained therein in all it's ever expanding glory be more flattering to your all mighty than a symbol representing but one man......who you use to represent all men. Sure, man is quite impressive but pales in comparison to the entire universe and all that it contains (including man).

What do you believe in ?

that has nothing to do with this topic. Either PM me any questions you have directly or post a general question on the board which I will be more than happy to reply to. This is not the place.

yea i pretty much asked the same thing to my religion teacher in 9th grade. i didn't get a good answer back 😬

krs-one (mc) said the same thing about the cross.

we (my family) as christians never really followed much of the OT. i was raised by just the NT and Jesus' teachings. thats all i can say for my part.

I don't know how deep you are into your religion.......so don't take offense to this..............but the new testament is directly based on the teachings of the old testament. Jesus lived to spread the word of god. The words of god most important are the ten commandments.........which is where the apparent contradiction lies.

I'm not expecting you to explain this to me or anything......just pointing this out for others who may view this thread who have the same beliefs.

yea i understand that, and the contradiction is clearly there. i understand that the bible itself isn't complete and has tons of stuff missing in it. so i dont really take everything too seriously. i dont go to church every sunday (cuz i honestly dont see a point in that). not saying we dont go to church, but we dont go every sunday.

I'm just wondering how many Christians see this apparent contradiction..........because according to their religion, by taking part they are breaking the first two commandments.......sentencing themselves to eternal damnation in hell.

conservative christians will be really upset cuz of this thread.

that may very well be..........but I still think it's a question they should be able to answer and share with everybody. Hopefully one of them can intelligently explain this apparent contradiction to me.........it is a pretty big one.

this is what i always thought...but i never asked this to my 9th grade teacher because she scared the shit out of all of us. 😛

since God spoke to these prophets and told them what to write about...what if these prophets went against God and wrote whatever the hell they wanted.

ok, ok..........it's a bit off topic but I get what you're saying. I always liked how Christians claim the greatest tool of Satan is deception..........but propose to one of them that they have been decieved and the beliefs they base their religion upon were handed down from Satan, decieving man into believing he was god. After all, it was god who created the universe, our planets, our earth, our nature.........yet animals kill animals in nature all the time. Doesn't the commandment "thou shalt not kill" directly contradict the actions of all of his creations around us?.......the creations that were not given free will and kill because god created them to kill. Talk about some red faced Christians when you get done............

seriously though.........back on topic........

Catholics say that animals do not have souls. Then what about the Blessings of Animals each fall (i think the saint was St. Francis of Assisi). i never really understood that.

Originally posted by hh?
Catholics say that animals do not have souls. Then what about the Blessings of Animals each fall (i think the saint was St. Francis of Assisi). i never really understood that.

Yes, why would you bless something without a soul. Humans like to think we are better than everything else. I believe that we are all the same, so, if I have a soul, so does my cat.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Yes, why would you bless something without a soul. Humans like to think we are better than everything else. I believe that we are all the same, so, if I have a soul, so does my cat.

thats how i see it also.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Yes, why would you bless something without a soul. Humans like to think we are better than everything else. I believe that we are all the same, so, if I have a soul, so does my cat.

One question. If a person and a cat was drowning, witch would you save if you could only save one ?

Originally posted by Superman 24
One question. If a person and a cat was drowning, witch would you save if you could only save one ?

The person...

But, my cat would save the other cat.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
The person...

But, my cat would save the other cat.

😆 😆 😆 😆 😮‍💨

Originally posted by Superman 24
One question. If a person and a cat was drowning, witch would you save if you could only save one ?

That could easily be taken to another level...

If a person you knew and a person you didn't were drowning....
If a child and an adult were drowning....
If a person you didn't know, and a person you hated so much you wish they were dead were drowning....
If your child and some other unknown child were drowning....

Ultimately in such a situation one rarely thinks about aspect of souls, they would save who they instinctively wanted to save. There are people in the world who would save the cat. There are people in the world who would let both drown. Both the cat and the human can have a soul, even though we might do more for the human.

If a person you hated so much you wish they were dead and a cat were drowning.......

It's all subjective to the individual. It's not down to souls.

Originally posted by Imperial_Samura
That could easily be taken to another level...

If a person you knew and a person you didn't were drowning....
If a child and an adult were drowning....
If a person you didn't know, and a person you hated so much you wish they were dead were drowning....
If your child and some other unknown child were drowning....

Ultimately in such a situation one rarely thinks about aspect of souls, they would save who they instinctively wanted to save. There are people in the world who would save the cat. There are people in the world who would let both drown. Both the cat and the human can have a soul, even though we might do more for the human.

If a person you hated so much you wish they were dead and a cat were drowning.......

It's all subjective to the individual. It's not down to souls.

So what you're saying is, that if there was a person you hates, and you're fav cat, you would save the cat ?

depends on how much you hate. if its the person that killed one of my family members or friends, i wouldn't give a damn. It's not being a good christian, its understanding whats right and whats wrong...or something like that 😂

and if the person is 900 pounds...i dont think i would able to save him...but i might try.