A question for Christians........

"I and my Father are one". In what sense?

Read the preceding verses. You'll see what He meant by that.
They are one in taking care of the flock. Not by being GOD.

After Jesus said that, those who were listening at that time didn't understand what Jesus simply meant by that. They thought that Jesus was claiming to be God by saying "I and my Father are one". They thought that Jesus is saying that "I and my Father are one God".

But, did Jesus rebuke them? Yes, actually He did. He told them that He came not to claim what people think He was... but to proclaim that He is the Son of God.

Meaning - He is distinguished from God. Not what most Christians nowadays think that He is one of God's three persons. Well, that's true - at least according to the Apostolic Fathers... but not according to the Bible.

Originally posted by Evil Dead
um........yes I do know what I'm talking about.....so you can dismiss all that "poor soul" sh[b]it.
I'm still waiting for an intelligent answer. Jury's post was intelligent, but did not answer my question. Capt Fantastic's post attempts to answer the question but is not intelligent. Jesus Christ was not god and never claimed to be. Not one place in the bible does he refer to himself as such. [/B]

Okay, with respect to Evil Dead, I'll try to answer the question and this would be still based from what I have posted earlier.

Here's your question:

Please, intelligently, explain to me why it is not blasphemy to your god to call your religion "Christianity"............named litteraly after the minister who taught your god's word. I believe the first two commandments go something like this (it's been a while)....

Christianity is used not because it is what Jesus suggested... it was used for the sake of Philosophy. Christianity is not really the name of the Christian religion. Christianity is the belief, as well as the practice of Christian religion. People like Philosophers, Lexicons, Grammarians, Scholars, etc... call it Christianity as a general term to describe the people who believe in Jesus Christ, follow Jesus Christ, and obey Jesus Christ.

Thou Shalt have no other god's before me

Jesus Christ is not claiming to be God... or to be the God who created all things. According to Him, there's only one true God... and that is the Father. His Father. Our Father. Not the Son. Not the Holy Spirit.

So why we don't call our religion after the name of God?

Earlier I posted that the Israel was God's first nation. But since God has chosen them and become one nation, given them a land called Israel, and the law and the covenant - they were worthy of God's promise.

But this nation didn't continue to be faithful in the sight of God. He forsaken them and they lost their right to worship the true God.

Then the time that God's plan (the Word) from the very beginning (which was with God) - a plan powerful as God (Word was God) that no one can stand against - was fulfilled (was made flesh) in the person of Christ.

God gave Him all authorities in heaven and on earth.

God gave Him the name above every name.

God commanded His people to worship this Man.
Yes. We, Christians worship Christ Jesus NOT because He is God... it's because it is what God has commanded us to do. As written by apostle Paul to the Philippians.

Thus whatever belongs to God, also belongs to Christ.
Whatever belongs to Christ also belongs to God.

Since the first nation of God ceased to exist and the covenant didn't continue - there must be a solution. The people of God in the last days (days before Judgment Day) must be saved - this is also a part of God's plan in the beginning.

How can these people be saved when all men have sinned?
Answer: God's will must be done.

What will? Revealed in the letter of Paul to the Ephesians.

Christ created a "one new man" from two - the Head and the Body - from two which become one in the sight of God.

Christ built His own Church - the Body. And Christ became the Head of it.

The Head and the Body.
The Christ and the Church.
The "one new man".

Part of God's will is that: In order to save this people from punishment on Judgment Day - the Body must be purchased with own blood of the Head.

So, Christ died for His own Church - not for all humankind.

This Church was God's new nation. And since God gave its Head a Name above every name - this Church must be called after this Name. This Church must be called after Christ.

That's why Christ call His body as "My Church". And the apostles call it the "Church of Christ".

This Church also belongs to God. That's why apostle Paul also call it as the "Church of God".

Thus, the Christian religion must be named after God's Name (not God's personall Name). This Name which God has given to His chosen ones - a Name which is above every name - this Name is none other than - the "Christ".

Yes. Christians believe so.

Yes they do. And so do Muslims.

Well.....it's been a year.......still nobody can answer.

While Jury's post three posts up is great........it's not entirely true. Christianity is not simply an idea that has been labeled as Christianity. There are numerous chruches across this great country with actual names like, "the church of christ"........printed in big bold letters.

Originally posted by Evil Dead
I don't know how deep you are into your religion.......so don't take offense to this..............but the new testament is directly based on the teachings of the old testament. Jesus lived to spread the word of god. The words of god most important are the ten commandments.........which is where the apparent contradiction lies.

I'm not expecting you to explain this to me or anything......just pointing this out for others who may view this thread who have the same beliefs.

Jesus came to serve, he came to heal, he came to forgive, but above all he came to save. There is no way to the Father expect through the Son. Before Jesus there was no hope for man. When he died on the cross he gave us a trade: our sin for his salvation.

Jesus came to serve, he came to heal, he came to forgive, but above all he came to save. There is no way to the Father expect through the Son. Before Jesus there was no hope for man. When he died on the cross he gave us a trade: our sin for his salvation.

while this may or may not be true.......just as Jesus may or may not have even existed......just like Mary may have been a virgin or may have been a $2 whore.........doesn't explain the hypocrisy discussed in this thread.

The only laws given to man, supposed by the Christian and Jewish faith alike, were the ten commandments. The first two commandments are being broken daily by any person walking this earth calling themselves Christians..........

Originally posted by Evil Dead
while this may or may not be true.......just as Jesus may or may not have even existed......just like Mary may have been a virgin or may have been a $2 whore.........doesn't explain the hypocrisy discussed in this thread.

The only laws given to man, supposed by the Christian and Jewish faith alike, were the ten commandments. The first two commandments are being broken daily by any person walking this earth calling themselves Christians..........

And that is why Jesus died for us. So that the sins we comment can be cleansed.

somebody must not be too good at reading as you again fail to answer the question posed...........

Originally posted by Evil Dead
while this may or may not be true.......just as Jesus may or may not have even existed......just like Mary may have been a virgin or may have been a $2 whore.........doesn't explain the hypocrisy discussed in this thread.

The only laws given to man, supposed by the Christian and Jewish faith alike, were the ten commandments. The first two commandments are being broken daily by any person walking this earth calling themselves Christians..........

The laws given to Christians are the Ten Commandments and the Word of God which is the Bible

The laws given to Christians are the Ten Commandments and the Word of God which is the Bible

again......you fail to answer the question.

You're a good debater...........Wish I was....

ME TOO! I must study closely and learn!

I'm just a good communicator in life...............and it shows on these threads....................I seem to derail them 😮

There needs to be a smiliey on a train that is falling off the tracks.

Originally posted by Evil Dead
clarify this for me please.

Please, intelligently, explain to me why it is not blasphemy to your god to call your religion "Christianity"............named litteraly after the minister who taught your god's word.

the name of your religion is not named after your god, merely a flesh and blood human being who you worship as a part of god.........

is not putting his name first in your religion in direct contradiction to the first commandment? Also.......Moses destroyed the Golden Calf.....because it was not an image of god. Why then is it acceptable for your religious symbol to be a cross.....or a man on a cross? It is not an image of god, it is worshipped but is only one of your god's creations.

Q1. Why Christianity?
A1. Jesus last name wasn't actually Christ, you do know that right? 😬 Jews aren't called Godists, and Greek Religion wasn't exactly named after Zeus. The name Christ means the anointed one, it was just a title, and christianity is named after him because he is the son of the god we do worship, and we believe in what the anointed one(Jesus) said, unlike Jews. Anyways, we don't actually KNOW gods name 😖
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Q2. Why Cross?
A2. We don't worship the cross, and we don't worship Jesus. We worship GOD. The Cross is a symbol that Jesus dyed for us, and for us to remember that god cares so much he would send his only son to dye on the cross, a most horrible death.
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Many chirstians do worship Jesus as god and the cross as the symbol of jesus.

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Originally posted by Alliance
Many chirstians do worship Jesus as god and the cross as the symbol of jesus.

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Yeah, but not all!

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Anyways, if Jesus is god, which infact he probably is, he obviously would allow it cause it's him being Jesus duh, lol

DUH!

No. And you cant make two posts without contradicting yourself.