No, I'm not saying that. However there are people in the world who would, people in the world would be tempted even. I don't think I would, though it would depend on why I hated them, and hated them enough that I wished they weren't there, who knows... perhaps it's Hitler, perhaps it some serial killer. The thing I was getting to is when a person is in that situation, souls are the last thing on a persons mind, it's more of an instinctual thing, you you go for first. If there is only time to save one, then your not going to ponder. The last one is deceptive, but the others show it well. Especially when it deals with two people, after all, you not suggesting the person you save is better then the other, or has a soul and they don't, it's just the way people do things.
And I will say it again, there are people who would save the cat.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Yes, why would you bless something without a soul. Humans like to think we are better than everything else. I believe that we are all the same, so, if I have a soul, so does my cat.
Originally posted by Evil Dead
clarify this for me please.I'm sure you all know that your religion and god is based on Judiism and their sacred text, The Torah. You decided to form your own religion ....keeping the basis of Judiism and the Torah.....but ammending it by adding the "sacred" teachings of a minister, Jesus...............Christ.
Please, intelligently, explain to me why it is not blasphemy to your god to call your religion "Christianity"............named litteraly after the minister who taught your god's word. I believe the first two commandments go something like this (it's been a while)....
Thou Shalt have no other god's before me
Thou Shalt commit unto thee any graven imagesthe name of your religion is not named after your god, merely a flesh and blood human being who you worship as a part of god.........is not putting his name first in your religion in direct contradiction to the first commandment? Also.......Moses destroyed the Golden Calf.....because it was not an image of god. Why then is it acceptable for your religious symbol to be a cross.....or a man on a cross? It is not an image of god, it is worshipped but is only one of your god's creations. Surely god would take as much offense to you worshipping his creation (jesus) as he would to worshipping another of his creations (the calf). Of all the things you attribute to your god creating.......wouldn't symbols representing the universe and all contained therein in all it's ever expanding glory be more flattering to your all mighty than a symbol representing but one man......who you use to represent all men. Sure, man is quite impressive but pales in comparison to the entire universe and all that it contains (including man).
First and foremost, it is called 'Christianity' simply because the followers believe in Jesus Christ being the Son of God. I would like to emphasize my contention that I don't believe that Jesus Christ is God... as how He introduce Himself while He was still here on earth.
So why Jesus Christ?
At first, since the beginning of time, God, when created humankind, used to CHOOSE His own people who are worthy to serve Him. That was a part of His plan in creating the world. That's why He chose Abel over Cain. After Abel, there was Seth. God call the descendants of Cain as "the sons of man" (meaning, the worldly ones)... and Seth's descendants were called "the sons of God" (meaning, the heirs of God's promise).
He also chose Noah's family over the sinners. Punished those sinners and blessed Noah to have his own descendants considered as "sons of God".
He also chose Abraham... then Isaac... then Jacob... until Abraham's descendants became a one nation.
And this nation became the Israel. The land with a promise. This is God's first nation.
They have the covenant. They have the promise.
But the history of Israel was a repetition of falling away from God. They chose to be sinners other than to become faithful to God's commandments. Until God cursed them and forsaken them.
But, since the beginning of time, God has already a plan. And this regarding His Son - the Messiah - the Christ. And this will come from the house of David - a seed to Abraham.
And this was fulfilled to Jesus Christ.
Jesus, having the NAME which is above every name, was given by God the authority over the earth, in heavens, and in everything.
And this is the start of Christianity - God's second nation. Not the Israel, however... but the one which Christ has built... and that is the Church.
The Church of Christ - which He purchased with His own blood.
Christ didn't die literally for the whole world. But only for His Church.
But the Church as prophesied, will fall away again from God.
And you already have witnessed it.
Everyone today becomes a witness to that fall.
Re: A question for Christians........
Originally posted by Evil Dead
clarify this for me please.I'm sure you all know that your religion and god is based on Judaism and their sacred text, The Torah. You decided to form your own religion ....keeping the basis of Judaism and the Torah.....but ammending it by adding the "sacred" teachings of a minister, Jesus...............Christ.
Please, intelligently, explain to me why it is not blasphemy to your god to call your religion "Christianity"............named litteraly after the minister who taught your god's word. I believe the first two commandments go something like this (it's been a while)....
Thou Shalt have no other god's before me
Thou Shalt commit unto thee any graven images
You poor soul, you do not know what you are talking about. There are many "denominations" that started even shortly after the death of Jesus ( Christ, Jesus Christ, the Christ, the Messiah- they all are one and the same), because even then men thought they knew better than God, or the disciples and apostles that lived with Jesus. Men rebelled even then again the strict sacrifice they have to make to follow Jesus.
Judaism is exactly that. Christianity is the following of Jesus, the son of God whom was sent by God to bring hope and salvation to the world. The Bible who is the inspired word of God teaches that in John 1 :1 the Word became flesh and came to live with us, meaning that Jesus literally became the fulfilment of God's word by being born of a human and then lived among us. That is why Jesus many times were called the son of man. Jesus is also God as he is part of the Trinity, God the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. So by following Jesus whom God sent (literally God himself in the flesh) we are not sinning but obeying God as He said in the Bible that there are no other saviour on earth or above earth but Jesus, whom He sent. Yes God also said that we are not allowed to worship any idols or images not even of God or Jesus and many Christians are sinning therefor. But for any one to really understand you have to believe in God's word and from your question it is clear that you do not.
um........yes I do know what I'm talking about.....so you can dismiss all that "poor soul" shit. Christianity is a bastardized form of Judiism. Open your Christian bible. You see that section labeled The Old Testament? Those first 5 books........those are called the Torah. Christianity came about by taking the Jewish god, the god Jesus spoke of.......the god of Abraham......then ammending the religion by adding a son of god.
I'm still waiting for an intelligent answer. Jury's post was intelligent, but did not answer my question. Capt Fantastic's post attempts to answer the question but is not intelligent. Jesus Christ was not god and never claimed to be. Not one place in the bible does he refer to himself as such. Sonnet's post only furthers my point. Jesus was not god......sent by god.....saviour to on earth.......okay.....but not god. Christians still insist on putting Christ before god and even putting his name in the name of their religion, yet leaving god out of the name completely. This is still breaking the first commandment no matter how one tries to justify it for fear if they don't they will be sinning. Putting Christs name......the only name in their religion CHRISTianity.....yet ommitting god altogether is clearly putting him before god. The first commandment does not say Thou shalt have no other gods before me, except for those sent by god, saviors on earth or sons of god. Same for the second commandment. There is no exception at the end allowing for images of those sent by god, saviors on earth or sons of god.
Originally posted by Evil Dead
Not one place in the bible does he refer to himself as such. Sonnet's post only furthers my point. Jesus was not god......sent by god.....saviour to on earth.......okay.....but not god. Christians still insist on putting Christ before god and even putting his name in the name of their religion, yet leaving god out of the name completely. This is still breaking the first commandment no matter how one tries to justify it for fear if they don't they will be sinning. Putting Christs name......the only name in their religion.
I agree with you...though many use the verse "I and the Father are One."
and the Father are one"
And Other Verses Commonly Misunderstood to Mean
That Jesus is God
"I and the Father are one"
John 10:30 is often quoted to show that Jesus is equal to God. But when you read the verse in its context you will find that the passage taken as a whole proves the opposite.
People are often content to quote the verse in isolation to show that Jesus said "I and the Father are one" and then the Jews picked up stones to stone him because they understood him to mean that he is claiming to be God. It is only when you read the passage to see what comes before and after this verse that you will realise that the Jews misunderstood what Jesus was saying. In fact, Jesus tried to explain what he meant, and the explanation he gave is still in the Bible for everyone to see. It is surprising that so many people who say they love Jesus ignore his explanation and repeat the mistake which was made by the enemies of Jesus. Here is the passage as it appears in the New International Version of the Bible:
People take it out of content....and when Jesus is saying I am the son of god or I am the son of man....It was the way they used language then...I could say, I am the daughter of man, or the daugher of god....that I am part of the human race, or that I belong to god.
Originally posted by debbiejo
Jesus saying that "I and the Father are one"...probably means...One in the since of thinking...Not that He is god exactly.
There is a concept in Buddhism that goes like this, all Buddhas think the same thing. So, if Jesus said that his mind was the same as god's mind (thinking), where would he have gotten that idea?
Originally posted by debbiejo
Jesus saying that "I and the Father are one"...probably means...One in the since of thinking...Not that He is god exactly.
Yup, and back then those were very controversial comments. That's why a bunch of Jewish Rabbies had the man crucified. It was an insult to their beliefs! How times never change.