A question for Christians........

Q1. Why Christianity?
A1. Jesus last name wasn't actually Christ, you do know that right? Jews aren't called Godists, and Greek Religion wasn't exactly named after Zeus. The name Christ means the anointed one, it was just a title, and christianity is named after him because he is the son of the god we do worship, and we believe in what the anointed one(Jesus) said, unlike Jews. Anyways, we don't actually KNOW gods name
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not answered. I know why the religion is called Christianity.....although I'm surprised you do after admitting last year that you have never read the bible in your life. The question is how Christians do not recognize it as a sin. The religion is named after the diefied "son" of god....not god himself. This clearly breaks the first commandment, "thou shalt have no other gods before me". Being the church of christ as opposed to the church of god is the greatest sin, breaking the very first law given to man by god.

Q2. Why Cross?
A2. We don't worship the cross, and we don't worship Jesus. We worship GOD. The Cross is a symbol that Jesus dyed for us, and for us to remember that god cares so much he would send his only son to dye on the cross, a most horrible death.
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again, not answered. You don't need to worship the cross for it to be a sin. Pagan's didn't worship idles......they made idles to represent the gods they worshiped......just as Christians use the cross to represent Jesus in all it's blasphemy. This is ofcourse breaking the second commandment. If you ever read the bible chibi boy you'll see this.

why are you back? didn't I run your 13 year old ass out of this forum last year via point by point dissection of your posts and lack of any knowledge pertaining to religion, christianity specificly, physics, just about anything in general contained therein?

I'm a Christian and I don't have a clue... hell I never thought of it before, but then I haven't touched my Bible... in like forever.

Evil Dead, I have asked the similar questions and when it comes down to it, Christians believe the Jesus & God are one in the same, so worshipping Jesus is the exact same as worshipping God. I believe the book of John and even some other passages on the NT state this(I'll get back to you on the exacts). I often debate with a die hard Republican Christian that has an encyclopedic knowledge of the Bible, if you like I can pose your question verbatim to him or?

Originally posted by Evil Dead
clarify this for me please.

I'm sure you all know that your religion and god is based on Judiism and their sacred text, The Torah. You decided to form your own religion ....keeping the basis of Judiism and the Torah.....but ammending it by adding the "sacred" teachings of a minister, Jesus...............Christ.

Please, intelligently, explain to me why it is not blasphemy to your god to call your religion "Christianity"............named litteraly after the minister who taught your god's word. I believe the first two commandments go something like this (it's been a while)....

Thou Shalt have no other god's before me
Thou Shalt commit unto thee any graven images

the name of your religion is not named after your god, merely a flesh and blood human being who you worship as a part of god.........is not putting his name first in your religion in direct contradiction to the first commandment? Also.......Moses destroyed the Golden Calf.....because it was not an image of god. Why then is it acceptable for your religious symbol to be a cross.....or a man on a cross? It is not an image of god, it is worshipped but is only one of your god's creations. Surely god would take as much offense to you worshipping his creation (jesus) as he would to worshipping another of his creations (the calf). Of all the things you attribute to your god creating.......wouldn't symbols representing the universe and all contained therein in all it's ever expanding glory be more flattering to your all mighty than a symbol representing but one man......who you use to represent all men. Sure, man is quite impressive but pales in comparison to the entire universe and all that it contains (including man).

Jesus=God.

no sir. Jesus = flesh and blood man, born of this earth some 2000 years ago........supposed sun of god, result of some heeby-jeeby union between god and a mortal woman......a half-breed........hercules.

Originally posted by Evil Dead
no sir. Jesus = flesh and blood man, born of this earth some 2000 years ago........supposed sun of god, result of some heeby-jeeby union between god and a mortal woman......a half-breed........hercules.

no2 Jesus=100% God, but also 100% man. It makes no sense. But that's how it goes.

can't be. According to the bible, god existed before man........therefore a man cannot be god.........if the Christians have it printed in their book it must be true!

Well, most Christians believe in the Trinity...The Father, the Son, and The Holy Spirit. As in, all parts of the Trinity are God, just in different forms. It's like water. You can have ice, vapor, or just plain water. It's still the same substance, with the same chemical makeup; H2O, just with different apperances and properties. With the Holy Trinity; God is like liquid water, providing life, a basis for survival, and a universal purpose. Jesus is like ice, a solid thing that can easily be seen, felt. and understood. He was a human, but he is still a part of God. Finally, the holy spirit is like water vapor; unseen, but still there, all around you.

That's what most Christians believe...so to them, believing in Jesus is believing in God. It's just a central part of their religion.

I will neither conform nor deny that I share the belief.

well that still doesn't make sense.......

as you put it.....water changes form. When water turns to ice, it ceases being liquid.

so when Jesus walked the earth there was no god in heaven? why were his miracles so mundane then? He can create life from dirt.......why walk on water?

Originally posted by Evil Dead
can't be. According to the bible, god existed before man........therefore a man cannot be god.........if the Christians have it printed in their book it must be true!

Thats the point, I am not agreeing with it, but that is what is written. Jesus is God made flesh. If you're a Christian and you believe God created the universe in 6 days, then as a Christian you would have no reason to believe God could make 'himself' into a human man.

Think about it, if you are a person that believes the Bible to be 100% die hard facts, then an act like this would be easy for God. That's what makes all acts of the Bible, no matter how outrageous plausible.

but it never states anywhere in the bible that Jesus was god........he never proclaimed to be god.......

so wherever these folks are getting their blasphemos ideas, they'd better stop if they wish to enter heaven.

Originally posted by Evil Dead
well that still doesn't make sense.......

as you put it.....water changes form. When water turns to ice, it ceases being liquid.

so when Jesus walked the earth there was no god in heaven? why were his miracles so mundane then? He can create life from dirt.......why walk on water?

Ever hear the analogy St. Patrick made? with the clover?
The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are the three leaves of the clover, but they are still part of the one clover. They all exist independently, but are collectivly cosidered "God".

they cannot exist independently and be the same being if one existed before the others............

by that logic, Jesus would have had to be created.......but according to Christians god was not created, he always was........if Jesus is part of god, jesus too would have always been......not born of man only 2000 years ago.

Originally posted by Evil Dead
but it never states anywhere in the bible that Jesus was god........he never proclaimed to be god.......

so wherever these folks are getting their blasphemos ideas, they'd better stop if they wish to enter heaven.

I'm fairly certain it does in the NT, like I said, I'll get back to you with the exact passages.

This is one of the reasons for the religious heads of the day for condemning Jesus to be crucified. If as a Jew, you are following the Old Testament at it fundamental points, a common man saying "I am God, I am the way." would be blasphemy. Remember, were talking way back in the day when stoning your wife was considered OK if she offended you.

You might get the same reaction today if you were to walk into a evangelical church in the most backs woods part of Alabama and proclaim to be Jesus come back to earth with the goal of sodomizing all you see.

Originally posted by Evil Dead
they cannot exist independently and be the same being if one existed before the others............

by that logic, Jesus would have had to be created.......but according to Christians god was not created, he always was........if Jesus is part of god, jesus too would have always been......not born of man only 2000 years ago.

None existed before any. All of them always existed. Jesus always existed, same with the Holy Spirit. He only took a particular form.

sorry Rob.....nowhere does Jesus say the words, "I am god". Many christians have tried to put the words into his mouth by taking other words.......reciting them out of context then telling us it means "I am god".......but those three little words are nowhere to be found in the Holy Bible.

None existed before any. All of them always existed. Jesus always existed, same with the Holy Spirit. He only took a particular form.

impossible. The bible states god existed before man......therefore Jesus (the human form of god as you put it) could not have existed at the same time as the other. This means that Jesus had to be created after man........which means god had to be created (atleast part, Jesus).

is it me or are we going in circles? There's my major problem with Christianity..........they never try to give answers. It's alway A=B because B=A. Why? Well....because B=A and A=B.......that's why!

Jesus, as told of in the NT, was born 2000 years ago. This leaves only two conclusions. Jesus was god, which means god was born 2000 years ago........after humans so the entire old testament is a work of fiction or that Jesus was indeed not god and therefore the very name and symbol of Christianity are blaspehmous.

Originally posted by Evil Dead
[B]
impossible. The bible states god existed before man

yes, i know that. But you just seemed to miss the part where i said "Jesus=100% God."

Originally posted by Evil Dead
[B]sorry Rob.....nowhere does Jesus say the words, "I am god". Many christians have tried to put the words into his mouth by taking other words.......reciting them out of context then telling us it means "I am god".......but those three little words are nowhere to be found in the Holy Bible.

No worries and I didn't mean those saying verbatim. I will get back to you were in the NT it says Jesus & God are the same so you can research.

Originally posted by Evil Dead
not answered. I know why the religion is called Christianity.....although I'm surprised you do after admitting last year that you have never read the bible in your life. The question is how Christians do not recognize it as a sin. The religion is named after the diefied "son" of god....not god himself. This clearly breaks the first commandment, "thou shalt have no other gods before me". Being the church of christ as opposed to the church of god is the greatest sin, breaking the very first law given to man by god.

again, not answered. You don't need to worship the cross for it to be a sin. Pagan's didn't worship idles......they made idles to represent the gods they worshiped......just as Christians use the cross to represent Jesus in all it's blasphemy. This is ofcourse breaking the second commandment. If you ever read the bible chibi boy you'll see this.

why are you back? didn't I run your 13 year old ass out of this forum last year via point by point dissection of your posts and lack of any knowledge pertaining to religion, christianity specificly, physics, just about anything in general contained therein?

1. Lol, i never said i had never read it, i just accepted that i didn't read it well, also including my bad memory = well....
And what's so wrong with worshipping god himself? Jesus christ is part of god but as his son, and it doesn't disobey the commandment firstly because he's god anyway, and secondly because we don't actually know what gods name is. We are technically naming it after god, as we don't know gods original name we must stay with the title he had on earth, the title WE gave him. Just cause it's named after him/his son, doesn't mean we aren't worshipping him.

2. Jesus is part of god, and the only part of god of whom we actually know was ever human, and since we don't know what the other parts of god look like... The cross is for us to remember the pain he went through for us, and how he did it so willingly, with gods son (or god). Just cause our symbol includes gods son/god, doesn't mean we aren't worshipping him.

And you didn't "run my 13 year old ass" lol You do realise that we aren't in the realm of science anymore, so technically...

Originally posted by Alliance
DUH!

No. And you cant make two posts without contradicting yourself.

Originally posted by Evil Dead
no sir. Jesus = flesh and blood man, born of this earth some 2000 years ago........supposed sun of god, result of some heeby-jeeby union between god and a mortal woman......a half-breed........hercules.

Urm, god = spirit, spirit = inside of Jesus 😖

Originally posted by Evil Dead
impossible. The bible states god existed before man......therefore Jesus (the human form of god as you put it) could not have existed at the same time as the other. This means that Jesus had to be created after man........which means god had to be created (atleast part, Jesus).

Jesus, as told of in the NT, was born 2000 years ago. This leaves only two conclusions. Jesus was god, which means god was born 2000 years ago........after humans so the entire old testament is a work of fiction or that Jesus was indeed not god and therefore the very name and symbol of Christianity are blaspehmous.

You seem to be missing large parts of... well... everything 😖

Originally posted by ESB -1138
Jesus came to serve, he came to heal, he came to forgive, but above all he came to save. There is no way to the Father expect through the Son. Before Jesus there was no hope for man. When he died on the cross he gave us a trade: our sin for his salvation.

So then before Jesus came, there was no point to worshipping God then...what was the point? That renders the Old Testament Invalid, and that renders HALF the Bible Invalid.

Is that what you are saying?

Damn, you Christian Debators contradict each other all the time ! 😆