Which was a better movie: The Empire Strikes Back or Revenge of the Sith

Started by chinabing22 pages

Originally posted by Tangible God
Just because it was intentional doesn't mean it's not embarassing. Here we've got Darth Vader, most hated enemy and purge of the Jedi, most feared warrior amongst civilians, Rebels and Imperials alike, and they have him yelling 'NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!" like a cry-baby schoolboy. It's cheesy, it's embarassing, it's humiliating for Vader's character, and it was a mistake.

I've got to disagree with you about the "Nooo" too! Put yourself in Vaders new shoes: You've just found out you've killed your own wife in your anger. (Which is another Sidious lie, but that's not the point here.) The whole reason for turning to the dark side was to save her, thus he killed his whole reason for being. And he's probably thought he killed his unborn child too.

I did not feel it was cheesy or embarassing. I felt heartbroken watching it. That whole scene made me cry, it did, and I've no shame in saying it. Hearing Vader's voice ask about Padme was absolutely chilling. His "Nooo" just broke my heart. "Look what you've done" I kept saying to myself. Look at his face right before it's covered by the mask, it's a face filled with fear.

Vader was never the great Satan, he's Satan's errand boy. His whole life's a tragedy. He did not become a Jedi master nor a Sith master. No wonder he became obsessed with finding Luke, so he could finally become a leader. But Luke made good choices, while Anakin made bad ones.

you make an excellent point

i thought i remember hearing that anikan became the new sith lord when he became darth vader

Originally posted by Darth L. Dipsit
I liked ROTS more than, say TPM and AOTC (I really didn't like AOTC because of the stilted script and ludicrity of certain parts, but that is only my sentiment). However, the OT had such good storytelling in it that I cared about the characters - I became involved with them. I actually became attached to people like Leia, Solo, and Luke because I could identify with them. None of the PT movies share that quality, so I couldn't really feel as much a part of them. So, just because ANH was the most meaningful to me, I liked it the best, followed by ESB and ROTJ (it's a close call for me, because I loved the ending scene with Luke and Vader as well as Jabba's palace, though the Ewoks brought an unrealistic element which almost distilled the plot of ROTJ - however, ESB was more dark and saddening, which still brings a certain depth to the table). In order, I would have to say that my SW picks go as follows, or at least something like this:

ANH
ESB
ROTJ
ROTS
TPM
AOTC

i agree i cant get attacted to the characters in the PT the same way as i do in the OT

Originally posted by pr1983
whatever faults in dialogue, acting, direction or plot holes, rots was twice as bad...

portman and hayden were bad, portman especially shocking...

the duels were rushed in alot of places, and the dialogue was awful at times...

i agree all of that sucked compared to esb especialy portmans acting 😘

Empire and Star Wars are still the best in the series. ROTS was sh*t

Originally posted by kanis
starwars The only thing i don't like about ESB is the fact that they cut off luke's scream as he falls down the large shaft thing.

yeah i hate that but what i REALLY hate is that they changed bobas voice that makes me so angry 😠

Boba's old voice was awsome. Very Clint Eastwood in my opinion and Boba was copied from Clint's character in the man with no name western movies

yeah i dont think there was any need to change his voice so what if he doesnt sounds like jango...i think GL changed too much stuff on the dvds

How did i miss out on this thread im going with Revenge Of The Sith it gave me goosebumps from start to finish and its probably because i saw at the theaters 10 times stood in line for 4 hours for it in costume. I also like the prequal trilogy better than the original trilogy sorry guys im new school.

ROTS was better than ESB.

I agree.

I respectfully disagree. It's definately the best of the prequel trilogy, and I'd definately say more entertaining than ANH. ESB is the best to me, followed by ROTJ, then ROTS.

Originally posted by JKozzy
I respectfully disagree. It's definately the best of the prequel trilogy, and I'd definately say more entertaining than ANH. ESB is the best to me, followed by ROTJ, then ROTS.
Ditto.

Why must everyone compare them? It's all one story.

That's like asking a parent which kid is their favorite.

Or asking a twice-champion ball player which championship is his favorite.

Well, my parents openly call my sister their favourite...

They're all quite different films... and ESB is the best made, and to me has the best story, themes, character development, and the best fight.

ESB totally owns everything. It's the closest you can get to a perfect film.

Originally posted by chinabing
Why must everyone compare them? It's all one story.

That's like asking a parent which kid is their favorite.

Or asking a twice-champion ball player which championship is his favorite.

Yeah, but these are MOVIES.

There ARE favourite movies. Probably because they were each made over a 3 year course, and the difference between the OT and the PT is about 16 years.

Parents are conflicted, champion's not always conflicted, movie watchers rarely conflicted.

starwars It would have been okay if it didn't exactly sound like jango but have his own kind of voice but they cheaply got the actor who played jango in AOTC to re talk over the actor who they got to play boba in the original trilogy.

ROTS by a hair.

My mom...who has never watched Star Wars...doesnt' realy appreicate Sci-fi....thinks Star WArs is for kids, etc.

I made her watch the OT...then the PT. She thought A New Hope was ok.....but then she got REALLy interested when i showed her ESB. Then for the other ones, she got back to thinking it's for kids...even ROTS (too flashy, melodramatic, subpar acting, etc).

So I've concluded for non-Star Wars fans...even ESB can stimulate some interest...hence, the better movie. And yes, i'm only basing this on my mom. 😛

Originally posted by DeVi| D0do
Well, my parents openly call my sister their favourite...

They're all quite different films... and ESB is the best made, and to me has the best story, themes, character development, and the best fight.

ESB totally owns everything. It's the closest you can get to a perfect film.

YESSSS!!!! ESB totally beats em all by a long shot