Feminism has gone too far.

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Feminism has gone too far.

Should women be allowed to play football with men? http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/leicestershire/4081894.stm
Coach kicks off football debate

England is playing host to the Women's Euro 2005 tournament
The law banning women from playing football with men at the highest level should be reviewed, an academic says.
Dr Jean Williams, a UEFA coach, says female players face embedded inequality as contact sports are exempt from equal opportunities legislation.

The De Montfort University lecturer wants sports chiefs to look at the rules which restrict women from playing in the top professional leagues.

FA regulations segregate male and female players from the age of 12.

The problem of deeply embedded inequality is encapsulated by the use of the very term 'women's football'

Dr Jean Williams, De Montfort University

Dr Williams, a UEFA-certified coach and former player, said: "Why shouldn't women be allowed to compete at the highest level?

"I think that goes across all sports and not just football.

"I think we need to look at equal opportunities law to review whether women should be allowed to compete at the highest level."

She will give a keynote speech about women in football at an international conference on Monday, timed to coincide with the current Uefa Women's Football Tournament being held in England.

'Passionate views'

"The problem of deeply embedded inequality is encapsulated by the use of the very term 'women's football'," she said.

"There are formal and informal systems discriminating against women that have been developed over the last century and these must be dismantled if the sport is really to be advanced.

"Football seems to have engaged passionate views about whether women can, may and ought to play for a relatively long time and most people will have an opinion, specialist or not."

She will speaking at The International Football Institute Conference 2005: Women, Football and Europe at the University of Lancashire.

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Should men and women play football together at the highest level? Or is this a step too far for sexual equality? Are you a footballer, if so how would it affect your team?

This debate is now closed. Thank you for your comments.

I recently signed for and promptly left a US Co-ed team in a Co-ed league (mixed male and female). The reason I left? I threw in a Gerrard style tackle in midfield and was booed when the player went down. I didn't realise until after the tackle that it was a woman I sent flying. She was unable to continue and I was booed for the rest of the match. Sorry people, but women physically cannot play football at the highest level.
Craig, Liverpool, Living in the USA

Woman can't compete on an equal field where strength is required

James Bateman, High Wycombe
When the Williams sisters were at 1 and 2 in the world, I remember listening to a programme where McEnroe was asked where they would be ranked in the men's table. I was shocked when he said around position 100. Woman can't compete on an equal field where strength is required. However they should compete in things like snooker and darts. (Paula Radcliffe is the one exception.)
James Bateman, High Wycombe

Including women does not work, I've played in mixed sides and the women either get hurt or more usually, the men pull out of tackles and don't play their normal game. Either way it messes the game up.
Jez, Blackpool

Clearly women will fail to match men at the highest level in soccer, just as they cannot match them in tennis. Why do men have to play five sets of tennis while women only play three? Yet the women now earn as much prize money as the men in tennis. Surely the men should be demanding equality, by playing fewer sets or getting more money for playing more tennis.
James Green

Yet another example of Political Correctness gone mad. I take it all sports would include boxing. The only people that would benefit would be the world's lawyers, as they line up to take on the ensuing claims of neglect and blame that any sensible person can see would ensue from allowing both sexes to compete in physical contact sports.
H Morrison, Lincoln

Women are not yet ready for football at the top level. Their skill levels can be quite high but they cannot compete with the men. I notice that most of those saying yes are from North America where soccer is viewed as a kid's/women's game. I don't think many women would survive a Roy Keane tackle.
Mark, Grangemouth

I can see it now. In a few years there will be legislation making it illegal for any football team to have less than 50% women, and what about disabled people?
Clive Webster, St Helens, UK

Why not start with snooker and darts?

What is snooker?

Snooker is similar to pool...but different......

Anyways, I am not in for a Feminism debate...I got my ass handed to my in the last one......

i dont think women should be allowed to play football with men at the highest level.
men are much more stronger and physical and it woudnt be nice for men to go around kicking and tackling women, it just doesnt feel right
i agree with mark

would you like a woman to take a man on at boxing?
no of course not

Originally posted by Deano
i dont think women should be allowed to play football with men at the highest level.
men are much more stronger and physical and it woudnt be nice for men to go around kicking and tackling women, it just doesnt feel right
i agree with mark

would you like a woman to take a man on at boxing?
no of course not

I think they should if they can compete on the level......if they are as good as the other Footballers sure thing, let them play with them....although the first time this happens only female teams would be a double standard...but I guess people could agree to that.....

If a woman can actually compete and play on the level of the men playing the sport, then go for it, she can play for all I care. Just so long as she doesn't start bitching if she gets tackled by a man who's bigger and stronger then her.

That said, women should get no special treatment or special rules, if they want to play with men then they need to be able to keep up and play properly with men, if they can't, then they should keep their ass in the womans league.

Originally posted by Bardock42
I think they should if they can compete on the level......if they are as good as the other Footballers sure thing, let them play with them....although the first time this happens only female teams would be a double standard...but I guess people could agree to that.....

it would be very rare for a women to compete at the very high level

Originally posted by BackFire
If a woman can actually compete and play on the level of the men playing the sport, then go for it, she can play for all I care. Just so long as she doesn't start bitching if she gets tackled by a man who's bigger and stronger then her.

That said, women should get no special treatment or special rules, if they want to play with men then they need to be able to keep up and play properly with men, if they can't, then they should keep their ass in the womans league.

i agree but i still think men woudnt wanna go in for a full blown tackle against a women

Always an interesting qustion- why no decent female chess players?

Originally posted by Deano
it would be very rare for a women to compete at the very high level

Possible, I don't know...they should be alowed to though......

Originally posted by Ushgarak
Always an interesting qustion- why no decent female chess players?

Hm, i heard of a rather young female chess player, but you are right non of the really great players (or only few), maybe its the different Idea of competing .....

Originally posted by Bardock42
Possible, I don't know...they should be alowed to though......

Hm, i heard of a rather young female chess player, but you are right non of the really great players (or only few), maybe its the different Idea of competing .....

as this guy said:

Clearly women will fail to match men at the highest level in soccer, just as they cannot match them in tennis. Why do men have to play five sets of tennis while women only play three? Yet the women now earn as much prize money as the men in tennis.

Originally posted by Deano
as this guy said:

Clearly women will fail to match men at the highest level in soccer, just as they cannot match them in tennis. Why do men have to play five sets of tennis while women only play three? Yet the women now earn as much prize money as the men in tennis.

Well yes I guess they won't but that'*S not the point..they should have the right...

AQd they earn as much money because people seem to watch it as much as they wattch male tennis,...its not aboot the effort they bring but just an easy equation....many people watching lots of money.....same amount of people watching same amount of money.....

Not to be generalising, but the fact is that even the very best women football players are shit compared to the best males. It doesn't even measure as worth comparing.

They play a completely different style of football. They only wanna be in with the men so they can say "Look what we did girlfriends! Right on sisters!" Despite the fact that they'll be getting laughed at when they're getting whooped.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Not to be generalising, but the fact is that even the very best women football players are shit compared to the best males. It doesn't even measure as worth comparing.

They play a completely different style of football. They only wanna be in with the men so they can say "Look what we did girlfriends! Right on sisters!" Despite the fact that they'll be getting laughed at when they're getting whooped.

-AC

😆 so true

heres the woman defender coming up against ronaldo now! whats gonna happen?
today its gonna be a tough miffield battle for roy keane as he faces georgina big breasts

it just woudnt work, as harsh as im sounding

ive got an idea, why not let women fight men at boxing

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Not to be generalising, but the fact is that even the very best women football players are shit compared to the best males. It doesn't even measure as worth comparing.

They play a completely different style of football. They only wanna be in with the men so they can say "Look what we did girlfriends! Right on sisters!" Despite the fact that they'll be getting laughed at when they're getting whooped.

-AC

well I know, and they shouldn't be allowed to play just to play, they have to be good to play there....and this would probably never happen buit the right should be there.......

Actually we have already debated the women football players to death. Jackie Malfoy started the thread in this very section. ✅

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=315297&highlight=Women+football

That stuff is gold. Everyone made an ass of themselves 😄

Originally posted by BackFire
If a woman can actually compete and play on the level of the men playing the sport, then go for it, she can play for all I care. Just so long as she doesn't start bitching if she gets tackled by a man who's bigger and stronger then her.

That said, women should get no special treatment or special rules, if they want to play with men then they need to be able to keep up and play properly with men, if they can't, then they should keep their ass in the womans league.

I pretty much agree with this.. besides.. why cant guys just have something thats just for guys.. same with girls.. ?

I figure if you have the skill, you have the right to play.

Originally posted by Dogbert
That stuff is gold. Everyone made an ass of themselves 😄

you gonna post your opinion?