Originally posted by kgkg
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Polaris what isn't that too much? Can you prove this?I do agree magneto is better but that's going overboard
battle with hal or Kyle
Wait...I missed the battle. Were you going to post something? Your post ended abruptly.
Magneto has far better feats than Polaris. Polaris is only now beginning to use his powers more intelligently. Magneto has planetary level feats, including the whole black hole thing. He's shown control over all four forces. He's absorbed gamma radiation and emitted microwaves. He's controlled gravity, etc. etc. You've heard it all before. It definitely surpasses Polaris.
Originally posted by jrodslam
Hal once beat Dr.Polaris by pumping him with so much magnetic energy, that it turned him into pure magnetic energy.What can Mags do about matter manipulation?
Magneto has absorbed planetary levels of magnetic power before. He did it when he was stuck in the earth's core, and he did it when he absorbed the magnetosphere from the earth. It left him more powerful. I suspect his absorption capabilities are pretty high.
Mags has low level matter manipulation. He can destroy matter more easily than built it, however, by atomically breaking it.
When Hal defeated Polaris, he was trying to tap the magnetic energy of the Universe. Not just a planet. He already had a pretty gppd portion of it. Hal gave it all to him and Polaris got absorbed into the core of the universe.
It would be funny if Hal shrunk Mags down to the size of a pea. Then stomp on him. lol.
Originally posted by demigawd
Wait...I missed the battle. Were you going to post something? Your post ended abruptly.Magneto has far better feats than Polaris. Polaris is only now beginning to use his powers more intelligently. Magneto has planetary level feats, including the whole black hole thing. He's shown control over all four forces. He's absorbed gamma radiation and emitted microwaves. He's controlled gravity, etc. etc. You've heard it all before. It definitely surpasses Polaris.
Magneto has absorbed planetary levels of magnetic power before. He did it when he was stuck in the earth's core, and he did it when he absorbed the magnetosphere from the earth. It left him more powerful. I suspect his absorption capabilities are pretty high.
Mags has low level matter manipulation. He can destroy matter more easily than built it, however, by atomically breaking it.
Kyle defeated Polaris once by what it looked to be a neutralizing Gun that makes magnetic powers vanish.
Magneto will put a good fight, but Hal has the resources to beat him.
Originally posted by jrodslam
When Hal defeated Polaris, he was trying to tap the magnetic energy of the Universe. Not just a planet. He already had a pretty gppd portion of it. Hal gave it all to him and Polaris got absorbed into the core of the universe.It would be funny if Hal shrunk Mags down to the size of a pea. Then stomp on him. lol.
Oh, so Hal won via plot device. Not a big deal.
Originally posted by kgkg
lol don't get Jrod started with Hal's Feat it surpasses Mag by a lot.Kyle defeated Polaris once by what it looked to be a neutralizing Gun that makes magnetic powers vanish.
Magneto will put a good fight, but Hal has the resources to beat him.
Magneto would have to let that happen. Magneto's ruthlessness would take out Kyle before Kyle got to that point. Polaris is too much bluster, that's why he gets caught.
My question is - how did Kyle/Hal react to EM energy from Polaris, assuming he was doing more than just throwing metal stuff around.
Originally posted by demigawd
Oh, so Hal won via plot device. Not a big deal.Magneto would have to let that happen. Magneto's ruthlessness would take out Kyle before Kyle got to that point. Polaris is too much bluster, that's why he gets caught.
My question is - how did Kyle/Hal react to EM energy from Polaris, assuming he was doing more than just throwing metal stuff around.
I agree Kyle would go down.
But Hal is more powerful
It looked from that scan less like Polaris was even trying to fight Hal and more that Polaris was busy with his task and Hal came and messed it all up for him. I'm curious to see how a Polaris whose only task was taking out Hal would do, and given that Polaris even got to that point, I'm guessing he beat Hal in a past issue and now Hal is desperate.
Originally posted by demigawd
It looked from that scan less like Polaris was even trying to fight Hal and more that Polaris was busy with his task and Hal came and messed it all up for him. I'm curious to see how a Polaris whose only task was taking out Hal would do, and given that Polaris even got to that point, I'm guessing he beat Hal in a past issue and now Hal is desperate.
Originally posted by demigawd
It looked from that scan less like Polaris was even trying to fight Hal and more that Polaris was busy with his task and Hal came and messed it all up for him. I'm curious to see how a Polaris whose only task was taking out Hal would do, and given that Polaris even got to that point, I'm guessing he beat Hal in a past issue and now Hal is desperate.
Polaris was fighting indeed. Hal was carless, and Polaris stole the ring as KG stated. Hal did manage to get it back however and whoop on Dr.P.
People you don't seem to understand the ring. I know ALOT of you seem to think it can just make pretty green shapes. But no. It can do ANYTHING....provided the will matches it.
It can bring people back from the dead.
It can alter reality.
It can create timetravel.
It has access to ANY and ALL energy properties. Gamma, Cosmic, Magic, you name it.
Originally posted by jrodslam
Polaris was fighting indeed. Hal was carless, and Polaris stole the ring as KG stated. Hal did manage to get it back however and whoop on Dr.P.
I think that scan is a much better indication of how the fight should be than your previous scan. In your previous scan, Hal pretty much snuck up on Polaris, who was busy with something else. In this way, they fight on even terms....and Polaris wins, fair and square.
Magneto is smarter, craftier, and even more ruthless than Polaris. It's a good match, but I don't see it ending well for Hal.
Originally posted by Draco69
People you don't seem to understand the ring. I know ALOT of you seem to think it can just make pretty green shapes. But no. It can do ANYTHING....provided the will matches it.It can bring people back from the dead.
It can alter reality.
It can create timetravel.It has access to ANY and ALL energy properties. Gamma, Cosmic, Magic, you name it.
For as long as the charge is good. Magneto could just absorb its energy. Or....jack the ring like Polaris did. And Magneto's will is incredible.
Originally posted by demigawd
For as long as the charge is good. Magneto could just absorb its energy. Or....jack the ring like Polaris did. And Magneto's will is incredible.
Like the Starheart and Qwardians tried and failed? Please.
It has to do with concentration. If Hal's concentration slips then he's defenseless. He wasn't focused on the fight (primarily due to the yet ANOTHER death of his girlfriend) thus he was defenseless.
A bloodlusted Hal once contained an entire galaxy of planet-destroyers.
And don't compare Magneto's will to Hal. His will is laughable compared to Jordan.