Originally posted by Draco69
Like the Starheart and Qwardians tried and failed? Please.It has to do with concentration. If Hal's concentration slips then he's defenseless. He wasn't focused on the fight (primarily due to the yet ANOTHER death of his girlfriend) thus he was defenseless.
A bloodlusted Hal once contained an entire galaxy of planet-destroyers.
And don't compare Magneto's will to Hal. His will is laughable compared to Jordan.
Originally posted by Draco69
Like the Starheart and Qwardians tried and failed? Please.It has to do with concentration. If Hal's concentration slips then he's defenseless. He wasn't focused on the fight (primarily due to the yet ANOTHER death of his girlfriend) thus he was defenseless.
A bloodlusted Hal once contained an entire galaxy of planet-destroyers.
And don't compare Magneto's will to Hal. His will is laughable compared to Jordan.
Don't make excuses for Hal. A fight's a fight. :d
Magneto has perhaps the greatest willpower in comics. I seriously doubt Hal's is greater. Magneto, on willpower alone, as a KID, brought himself back to life at the Nazi death camps and climbed his way through 500 bodies in a lime pit and unburied himself. Magneto, through sheer will power, resisted Rogue's absorption, and Psylocke's psychic knife. Through sheer willpower, he took a full shot to the face by Colossus with no helmet and no shield and didn't go down. He rejected the Shadow King and mentally fought Doom (the other contender for the willpower title) to a draw.
No, Hal is NOT winning the willpower contest against Magneto.
Originally posted by Draco69
The Power Rod was a stolen weapon from the renegade Manhunters and New God technology. The Guardians specifically created it to counter the green ring incase any Corps member went nuts. And of course it got stolen.Magneto unfortunately doesn't have such resources.
i was just showing it is possible.
Originally posted by kgkg
Hal wins Mag isn't jacking Hal's energy, but it is possible
At first I was like, "Who's side are you on, kgkg?", then I read this and I realized that it was more a case of you setting up for a GL/Surfer fight, lol.
GL power was described in that scan as "green light", and Booster absorbed it with yellow. Magneto controls light, he could EASILY do a Booster on GL. So if Booster can do it, then yes, Magneto most certainly could do it as well. Magneto still takes this.
Originally posted by demigawd
At first I was like, "Who's side are you on, kgkg?", then I read this and I realized that it was more a case of you setting up for a GL/Surfer fight, lol.GL power was described in that scan as "green light", and Booster absorbed it with yellow. Magneto controls light, he could EASILY do a Booster on GL. So if Booster can do it, then yes, Magneto most certainly could do it as well. Magneto still takes this.
Originally posted by demigawd
Don't make excuses for Hal. A fight's a fight. :d
More like PIS ridden crapbole.
Magneto has perhaps the greatest willpower in comics. I seriously doubt Hal's is greater. Magneto, on willpower alone, as a KID, brought himself back to life at the Nazi death camps and climbed his way through 500 bodies in a lime pit and unburied himself. Magneto, through sheer will power, resisted Rogue's absorption, and Psylocke's psychic knife.[/B][/QUOTE]
Boo-hoo. Wah-Wah. So he survived a Nazi Camp. So what? Hal was once forced to watch Sinestro murder several entire solar systems that killed billions upon billions of lifes. Hal's life is FAR more shi**y than Mags.
Resisted Psylocke? So what? Hal resisted Krona's mental manipulation that dominated one entire splinter universe of the multiverse. Not to mention Hector Hammond who makes Psylocke and Xavier look like a autist.
Resisted Rogue's absorbtion? So what? Hal resisted the Spectre himself several times without a ring. Only his willpower kept the Wrath of God in check.
Originally posted by demigawd
Through sheer willpower, he took a full shot to the face by Colossus with no helmet and no shield and didn't go down.
Through sheer willpower, Hal survived nearly two years of mental and physical torture at the hands of the Manhunters....and STILL wouldn't tell them where the Guardians were.
Originally posted by demigawd
He rejected the Shadow King
Hal fought the influence of the Parallax demon chewing on his soul for the entire duration of his life.
Originally posted by demigawd
and mentally fought Doom (the other contender for the willpower title) to a draw.
Hal mentally fought the Guardians from preventing him from using the Oan Core. That's nearly a THOUSAND uber-telepaths that make Xavier and Shadow King look like children.
Originally posted by demigawd
No, Hal is NOT winning the willpower contest against Magneto.
Please. Hal is the eptiome of willpower. Always is and always will be.
Originally posted by demigawd
GL power was described in that scan as "green light", and Booster absorbed it with yellow. Magneto controls light, he could EASILY do a Booster on GL. So if Booster can do it, then yes, Magneto most certainly could do it as well. Magneto still takes this.
Green light? Of course it was green light. It was a friggin flashlight. Booster surprised him.
And for god's sake the color of the field is YELLOW.
Originally posted by Draco69
Green light? Of course it was green light. It was a friggin flashlight. Booster surprised him.And for god's sake the color of the field is YELLOW.
Are you sure than wanst a manhunter?
"No man escapes the Manhunters" is the trademark saying. Plus they have the ability to shapeshift.
Originally posted by Draco69
More like PIS ridden crapbole.
What? So Hal loses to Polaris fair and square and it's PIS, but then Polaris, who isn't paying the slightest bit of attention to Hal, gets overloaded and THAT'S accurate? C'mon now!
Boo-hoo. Wah-Wah. So he survived a Nazi Camp. So what? Hal was once forced to watch Sinestro murder several entire solar systems that killed billions upon billions of lifes. Hal's life is FAR more shi**y than Mags.
Did Hal have a personal connection to those lives? No...so it has nothing to do with willpower. Invalid point. Magneto KNEW those hundreds of people. They were friends, family. He was left for dead and WILLED himself to life and out of the pits, surrounded by the rotting flesh of everybody he's ever loved. It's not a contest of who had the shitter life, it's a contest of who has the will to overcome it. Magneto OVERCAME that kind of trauma being right in his face. It's easy to overcome the destruction of star systems you don't know - it's all abstract.
Now when Hal's city was destroyed, he snapped and became corrupted by Parallax. That's not a very will powered thing to do.
Resisted Psylocke? So what? Hal resisted Krona's mental manipulation that dominated one entire splinter universe of the multiverse. Not to mention Hector Hammond who makes Psylocke and Xavier look like a autist.
magneto resisted the combined might of Xavier and Phoenix, and he willed himself to fight off the Phoenix Force's mental attack, which had just previously obliterated Firelord easily.
Wasn't Hal Spectre at the time of Krona?
Through sheer willpower, Hal survived nearly two years of mental and physical torture at the hands of the Manhunters....and STILL wouldn't tell them where the Guardians were.
Magneto, as a child, endured FIVE years of mental and physical torture and never gave up and never revealed the location of the rest of his family (they found them anyway).
Hal fought the influence of the Parallax demon chewing on his soul for the entire duration of his life.
Fighting and winning are two different things. He lost Coast City, he lost the fight with Parallax. He got weak and gave in.
Hal mentally fought the Guardians from preventing him from using the Oan Core. That's nearly a THOUSAND uber-telepaths that make Xavier and Shadow King look like children.
He was being powered by Parallax by then and had, like, a million GL rings.