Hulk and Dr. Doom Vs Superman and Magneto

Originally posted by Batman Wins
Damn it. I didn't know Dooms stats was better than Magnetos. What the hell is this about. So how come the Fantastic four, chump Doom all the time. Anyway, Magneto is almost at Dooms Level and there for will tire, each other out, and after Superman kills Hulk, he will Get to Doom.

I guess Doom isnt the first. Mags is.

I hate to say this, but the F4 aren't exactly "low-level"...they DID get their power from cosmic rays. Wouldn't that put them somewhere near cosmic(while not as powerful, at least close)

Although Doom isn't stupid. It won't take much for him to realize Magnetos amplifying the suns energy for a reason.

I say Doom wins due to the fact he's probably got a million and 5 gadgets to take on people as strong as Superman, and a million and thirty for Magneto.

"I hate to say this, but the F4 aren't exactly "low-level"...they DID get their power from cosmic rays. Wouldn't that put them somewhere near cosmic(while not as powerful, at least close)"

...Huh?

"Although Doom isn't stupid. It won't take much for him to realize Magnetos amplifying the suns energy for a reason."

Then what?

Then he negates Magneto's mutant power, if he didn't do so from the beginning. And after that, he can do to Superman what he did to Hulk, high pitch sonic frequency. And since Supes has the super-hearing going for him, it's that much more effective. It may hurt Hulk too, but like Doom cares. That's if he does that while Supes is occupied with Hulk, or before Supes realizes what he's about to do.

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Supes can speedblitz Doom and then Supes and Mags gangbang the hulk.

Superman would instinctively head for the big green muscled brute first.

Doom is a good sorceror as well.

And Doom already has magneto well in hand.

Since they have basic knowledge of each other Supes would know to speedblitz Doom as he is a bigger threat than Hulk at the beginning of the battle. Hulk poses no threat at the beginning of the battle since he is only brute strength. Supes speedblitzes Doom and tosses the hulk to the sun a picosecond after the match begins.

Superman starts by rushing at Hulk first. Delivering a hard punch to knock him a couple miles away, in a milisecond to get him out the way (even if only for a couple of seconds). Then he rushes Doom and throws him in the sun (think your way outta that). Then comes back to beat the hell outta the Hulk.

And this is without Mags magnifying his power. If this doesn't work and the fight drags on than Supes flies to the Sun for several seconds, then comes back and everybody gets killed.

Supes takes this by himself.

Doom wins 😉

Doom's magic beats Superman

and as usual Doom makes a fool of Mags ✅

than he just throws Hulk in a hole or somthing 😆

Originally posted by Grimm22
Doom wins 😉

Doom's magic beats Superman

and as usual Doom makes a fool of Mags ✅

than he just throws Hulk in a hole or somthing 😆

lol

yeah i was gona say

superman is awfly weak to magic, and doom is quite the sorceror

Originally posted by ExtraMision5555
lol

yeah i was gona say

superman is awfly weak to magic, and doom is quite the sorceror

I would say he is probobly in the top 5 for marvel if not at least the top 7

goes like this if you ask me...

1. Dr. Strange

2. Shaman

3. Talisman

ect..

people are seriously underrateing the good doctor here, this is a man who pretty much isnt afraid to face anyone second only to reed in the field of science and second only to dr strange in the field of magic doom by himself could bet sups magneto or hulk heck he could send a doombot to do it, his armour makes anything ironman evermade look like a 5th grade science project

Hmmm. OneDumbGo's version of the fight:

Superman and Magneto are their normal selves. Hulk is his current version, smart but able to be enraged whereby he loses his intellect. Dr. Doom has his normal armor. Assuming all characters know the other team is hostile, Supes would rush over to the Hulk and start pounding away. Hulk would get madder and madder and go toe-to-toe with a surprised but still determined Superman. Supes would go to his wide array of powers. Most likely, he'd be using super speed to hit Hulk who can't nail him in return. This however would seriously piss off Hulk who's ever increasing strength allows him to take Superman's increasingly violent blows.

Doom in the meantime has distracted Magneto with a Doombot made of teflon and/or nullified his powers using Sentinel copied technology. He studies the Hulk/Supes fight. Knowing Superman's nigh unlimited power potential, he'd get real careful as if he had to face Thor. Which means no straight up fighting. He'd probably use the magic Crimson Bands of Cytorrak to bind Superman to prevent him from utilizing his speed. Doom's got a backup plan because he'd probably think Supes would eventually break his way out, but Supes doesn't much to his surprise.

Supes proceeds to get pounded on by Hulk who's been thoroughly enraged. Doom lets Hulk have his merry way and returns to Magneto, who's finally destroyed his Doombot and/or broken the Sentinel power dampening field through subtle electromagnetic manipulation. Doom using one of his uncanny power absorption modules, now goads Magneto into releasing his full power. Mags obliges and creates an EMP which Doom partially absorbs with his power absorption module. He proceeds to blow Magneto away with his power gauntlets.

Unfortunately for Doom, Hulk's pounding Supes has actually worked against him, because Supes who sees no way out of the Crimson Bands of Cytorrak through his own strength, continues to goad Hulk into hitting him harder. Hulk gets more enraged at not being able to kill Supes and rages up and smashes him, but destroys the Crimson Bands of Cytorrak (once thought impossible until this fight!) in the process.

The feedback from destroying the Crimson Bands is tremendous and throws all involved for a loop. Doom gets magic feedback in particular as the spellcaster (I'm pretty sure his will is tied to the magic's strength). Supes has moments to recover and targets Doom, the magic user. He rips through his forcefield and tears most of his armor off revealing a scarred man underneath. Doom (sneaky devil that he is), perceives Supes' compassion for humans and convinces Superman that the Hulk forced him to help him. Supes isn't entirely gullible and goes ahead and crushes one of his hands anyway to prevent his magic incantations. Satisfied that Doom is too stunned to cast more magic (which he actually is) Superman turns his attention back to the Hulk.

Foolish alien though. Doom still retains his charged power module and charges up what remains of his armor. Doom is tired of subtle machinations and steps forward like the badass he is, he can't stand that another being made him kneel down. In the middle of Hulk's/Superman's throwdown, he throws himself into battle and grabs Superman from behind with his remaining gauntlet. Doom forces every erg of pent up EMP power directly into Superman's head. Superman keels over and Hulk kills him.

That would be the end, but like Tron said, "Doom shares victory with no one." Doom is now crippled, still dazed from the magic feedback and has busted armor and no power module and faces off against an entirely pissed off Hulk.

I'm still willing to give him 50/50 odds on that one. -.-b

Originally posted by db_renji
Then he rushes Doom and throws him in the sun (think your way outta that).

Very well...

Ovoid mind trick.

Well, didn't take much thought, now did it? 🙄

i say doom could take all 3 by himself

Originally posted by hawkwind
i say doom could take all 3 by himself

Originally posted by Tron
Very well...

Ovoid mind trick.

Well, didn't take much thought, now did it? 🙄

Doesn't Doom need to make eye contact?

Like I said what is to stop Supes from speedblitzing Doom a picosecond after the match starts since he has basic knowledge of Doom and would know Doom is a bigger threat than Hulk. Then a picosecond later hulk is flung into the sun. At base strength Hulk is not very strong compared to Supes and it doesn't matter since he is flung into the sun.

Supes with speedblitz ftw. I mean what is Doom going to do against a speedblitz. Hulk is screwed after that.

Just out of curiousity, how often has Superman actually speedblitzed people? I've seen him do it against SPB in 'Infinite Crisis,' and I suppose Wonderwoman in 'Sacrifice.' And that particular speedblitz started at the speed of sound because he had to accelerate. He couldn't just turn on superspeed like Flash, he needed momentum. I see 'speedblitz' thrown around almost as often as anything in these forums and with all my comics reading, I just don't see him utilize it much at all.

hence, I roll my eyes whenever I see it. But I'll give you guys a chance to post some scans or examples or point me to a thread, because such a popular term cannot be wholly devoid of actual merit.

well... DOom needs some good ol' prep for this fight, otherwise yeah he will be the first one to get crushed here.