Hulk and Dr. Doom Vs Superman and Magneto

Started by Grimm228 pages

Originally posted by bean_machine
Doesn't Doom need to make eye contact?

Like I said what is to stop Supes from speedblitzing Doom a picosecond after the match starts since he has basic knowledge of Doom and would know Doom is a bigger threat than Hulk. Then a picosecond later hulk is flung into the sun. At base strength Hulk is not very strong compared to Supes and it doesn't matter since he is flung into the sun.

Supes with speedblitz ftw. I mean what is Doom going to do against a speedblitz. Hulk is screwed after that.

Trys to speedblitz Doom 😐

Runs into Doom's magic sheilds 😉

Originally posted by Grimm22
Trys to speedblitz Doom 😐

Runs into Doom's magic sheilds 😉

That's the most Doom-fanboyish thing I've ever heard you say. Superman would trounce him.

Originally posted by Grimm22
Trys to speedblitz Doom 😐

Runs into Doom's magic sheilds 😉


How can he run into a shield when Doom has no time to make one?

Originally posted by Brian Oswald
How can he run into a shield when Doom has no time to make one?

He can't. It's just that Doom is God to Grimm22.

Originally posted by JuanJohnboy
well... DOom needs some good ol' prep for this fight, otherwise yeah he will be the first one to get crushed here.

dont think so doom is praticly preped for every hero on earth 24/7 with the armour he has on

oh and good eye on the whole speedblitz issue i'ld have to say that mostly everyone on this forum who's ever voted superman the winner said it was because of a speedblitz but they never backed up their case

Originally posted by lando005
dont think so doom is praticly preped for every hero on earth 24/7 with the armour he has on

oh and good eye on the whole speedblitz issue i'ld have to say that mostly everyone on this forum who's ever voted superman the winner said it was because of a speedblitz but they never backed up their case

The case is SPEEDBLITZ. He makes everybody in this fight look like fools when it comes to speed.

Originally posted by batdude123
The case is SPEEDBLITZ. He makes everybody in this fight look like fools when it comes to speed.
like it was stated above how fast can he really do a speedblitz from a dead start we would like some proof on this

Originally posted by lando005
like it was stated above how fast can he really do a speedblitz from a dead start we would like some proof on this

*sigh*

There are TONS upon TONS. Do a little research. The Superman respect thread is FILLED with his speedblitzes.

Slaughter by either Mags or Supes.

Originally posted by batdude123
*sigh*

There are TONS upon TONS. Do a little research. The Superman respect thread is FILLED with his speedblitzes.

just answer the question since you know so much offically how fast can sups move from a dead start as in he's just standing there next second he takes off not standing there ready to go on a moments notice

Originally posted by lando005
just answer the question since you know so much offically how fast can sups move from a dead start as in he's just standing there next second he takes off not standing there ready to go on a moments notice

He travelled from one part of the galaxy to another in mere moments, so.... yeah. He makes everybody in this thread look like chumps when it comes to speed.

Hulk's team smasher

Hulk and Doom win

hysterical2 crylaugh

Go be an idiot somewhere else. 🙄

Originally posted by batdude123
He travelled from one part of the galaxy to another in mere moments, so.... yeah. He makes everybody in this thread look like chumps when it comes to speed.
first off which incranation of superman did that feat i belive we are using the current version, plus i would still like to know his offical max dead start speed

Originally posted by lando005
first off which incranation of superman did that feat i belive we are using the current version, plus i would still like to know his offical max dead start speed

That was good ole' Post-Crisis Superman. 🙂

Originally posted by batdude123
That was good ole' Post-Crisis Superman. 🙂
hasnt he become more powerful since he first apeared? i mean feat wise the things he could do has increased since then hasnt it and i would still like to know dead start time

Originally posted by lando005
hasnt he become more powerful since he first apeared? i mean feat wise the things he could do has increased since then hasnt it and i would still like to know dead start time

Yes, he has. During the golden age, he wasn't NEARLY as powerful as he was during the silver age. Then, John Byrne started from the ground-up with Post Crisis Superman. From 1986 til now, he's been getting more and more powerful by the year. 🙂

His speed is way above lightspeed.

Originally posted by batdude123
Yes, he has. During the golden age, he wasn't NEARLY as powerful as he was during the silver age. Then, John Byrne started from the ground-up with Post Crisis Superman. From 1986 til now, he's been getting more and more powerful by the year. 🙂

His speed is way above lightspeed.

this may seem off topic but doesnt that get a little stale to u? with sups's power always on the rise they could have kept him at golden age levels and he would have been fine

Originally posted by batdude123
*sigh*

There are TONS upon TONS. Do a little research. The Superman respect thread is FILLED with his speedblitzes.

It's easy to state that they're out there just as its easy for me to state that the ones I've mentioned are nowhere near the feat level you've posited. The speedblitz in 'Sacrifice?' That was speed of sound level until he got enough momentum to start accelerating at near light speeds to make it to the Sun with Wonderwoman. The speedblitz in 'Infinite Crisis?' Did that with Superman-2's help. He doesn't need much time to speed up once he gets going, but at close range and full on bloodlust, the best I've seen him do is break the sound barrier. From these examples, it appears obvious that only after gaining momentum can he traverse these super speeds. Maybe you can explain it away by saying he wasn't really trying? Even though he was probably as bloodlusted against Wonderwoman than he ever was, but look at Superman #207. Superman was trying to save militants from being executed callously by Equus in the opening pages. He sure damn as hell was trying to get there as fast as possible to save human lives and he couldn't make it in time. He was in the same city as Equus and couldn't make it. Those are supersonic speeds from a dead start. Doom's shields can easily take on that power.

Show us one of these famous speedblitzes please. Because he doesn't use them much from my reading. Granted, I've read more of his current stuff but he didn't use it against Mongul, Despero, Zod, Preus, Blackrock... lord the list goes on. This so-called famous 'speedblitz' that can apparently annihilate the Hulk in a pico second? Apparently, he forgets that he has it, or it isn't what you think it is. Either way, if Superman almost never resorts to it or can't do it, Superman proponents should stop touting it as a panacea for all of Superman's ills, because it's beginning to sound very strained.

Originally posted by lando005
this may seem off topic but doesnt that get a little stale to u? with sups's power always on the rise they could have kept him at golden age levels and he would have been fine

No. It makes sense. His cells draw in more and more sunlight, while keeping the energy stored in reserve. That's how his body works. Therefore, he gets more and more powerful as time goes on.