Originally posted by batdude123but his body does not mutate to contain more enegy he has a limit as to how much he can store
No. It makes sense. His cells draw in more and more sunlight, while keeping the energy stored in reserve. That's how his body works. Therefore, he gets more and more powerful as time goes on.
magneto and supes win. dr. doom and magneto isnt a fight. no matter the feats abilities of dr. doom, they don't take away from magnetos. magneto over doom 10/10
hulk and supes isnt a fight, speedblitzed and thrown into the sun.
no matter the strength of the hulk, he would never land a hit. not to mention the fact supes and magneto could do all this from a long distance. heat vision and magnetism won't have to be from close range
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
It's easy to state that they're out there just as its easy for me to state that the ones I've mentioned are nowhere near the feat level you've posited. The speedblitz in 'Sacrifice?' That was speed of sound level until he got enough momentum to start accelerating at near light speeds to make it to the Sun with Wonderwoman. The speedblitz in 'Infinite Crisis?' Did that with Superman-2's help. He doesn't need much time to speed up once he gets going, but at close range and full on bloodlust, the best I've seen him do is break the sound barrier. From these examples, it appears obvious that only after gaining momentum can he traverse these super speeds. Maybe you can explain it away by saying he wasn't really trying? Even though he was probably as bloodlusted against Wonderwoman than he ever was, but look at Superman #207. Superman was trying to save militants from being executed callously by Equus in the opening pages. He sure damn as hell was trying to get there as fast as possible to save human lives and he couldn't make it in time. He was in the same city as Equus and couldn't make it. Those are supersonic speeds from a dead start. Doom's shields can easily take on that power.Show us one of these famous speedblitzes please. Because he doesn't use them much from my reading. Granted, I've read more of his current stuff but he didn't use it against Mongul, Despero, Zod, Preus, Blackrock... lord the list goes on. This so-called famous 'speedblitz' that can apparently annihilate the Hulk in a pico second? Apparently, he forgets that he has it, or it isn't what you think it is. Either way, if Superman almost never resorts to it or can't do it, Superman proponents should stop touting it as a panacea for all of Superman's ills, because it's beginning to sound very strained.
You're correct about Superman not using the speedblitz very often. However, it is still a viable tactic to use against his opponents, considering that he CAN do it. And as per forum rules; if it's in the character's power set, it's fair play to bring up in a debate.
There are MANY feats that negate what you're bringing up:
-flew around the world before Lois could speak another word
-flew across the galaxy in moments
-beat Bizarro in a race who stalemated a blitzing Zoom
-knocked out a blitzing Zoom
-flew to one of Jupiter's moon in a couple minutes
-flew to the sun in seconds
-caught 500 (or more) aliens in mid-air before any of them could react
-speedblitzed an entire CITY full of villains before any of them could do anything about it (in fact, it looked like he was toying with them to boot)
etc. etc. etc.
You also forgot to mention the fact that he doesn't like to go passed the speed of sound while on Earth because it causes atmospheric disturbances. That doesn't mean that he can't, however. 🙂
So, as it stands, Superman speedblitzes Doom and Hulk before they can react. 😉
Originally posted by great_danewhen has magneto ever proven to be dooms supirior?
magneto and supes win. dr. doom and magneto isnt a fight. no matter the feats abilities of dr. doom, they don't take away from magnetos. magneto over doom 10/10hulk and supes isnt a fight, speedblitzed and thrown into the sun.
no matter the strength of the hulk, he would never land a hit. not to mention the fact supes and magneto could do all this from a long distance. heat vision and magnetism won't have to be from close range
Originally posted by batdude123
You're correct about Superman not using the speedblitz very often. However, it is still a viable tactic to use against his opponents, considering that he CAN do it. And as per forum rules; if it's in the character's power set, it's fair play to bring up in a debate.There are MANY feats that negate what you're bringing up:
-flew around the world before Lois could speak another word
-flew across the galaxy in moments
-beat Bizarro in a race who stalemated a blitzing Zoom
-knocked out a blitzing Zoom
-flew to one of Jupiter's moon in a couple minutes
-flew to the sun in seconds
-caught 500 (or more) aliens in mid-air before any of them could react
-speedblitzed an entire CITY full of villains before any of them could do anything about it (in fact, it looked like he was toying with them to boot)
etc. etc. etc.
You also forgot to mention the fact that he doesn't like to go passed the speed of sound while on Earth because it causes atmospheric disturbances. That doesn't mean that he can't, however. 🙂
So, as it stands, Superman speedblitzes Doom and Hulk bef
ore they can react. 😉
Originally posted by lando005
but if that's the case he would go past the speed of sound in this fight either hey may be fighitng to the best of their abilities but they would still be fighting in character
Contradictions such as that usually (MOST of the time; there are a few occasions when it stays true) aren't taken into account by the writers. 😬 He's shown to be able to go way past the sound barrier on Earth MANY times. Therefore, Doom and Hulk die. 🙂
Originally posted by batdude123
Contradictions such as that usually (MOST of the time; there are a few occasions when it stays true) aren't taken into account by the writers. 😬 He's shown to be able to go way past the sound barrier on Earth MANY times. Therefore, Doom and Hulk die. 🙂