I meant if God (Presence/TOAA) wanted to he could get rid of Phoenix and create something else to do what it does. That's what I mean by "It's god it can do anything" TOAA doesn't need anything it's God. I'm not saying there would be a fight because there wouldn't be but I am saying that TOAA could do away with the Phoenix Force if it really
wanted to.
I was using the "Phoenix turns on TOAA" as an example.
Phoenix is in no way an essential part of TOAA, it is infinitely powerful. Getting rid of Phoenix would be like God clipping its fingernails "Hey that kind of vibrated my finger a little.....oh well."
Originally posted by Madguitarist
I meant if God (Presence/TOAA) wanted to he could get rid of Phoenix and create something else to do what it does. That's what I mean by "It's god it can do anything" TOAA doesn't need anything it's God. I'm not saying there would be a fight because there wouldn't be but I am saying that TOAA could do away with the Phoenix Force if it really
wanted to.I was using the "Phoenix turns on TOAA" as an example.
Phoenix is in no way an essential part of TOAA, it is infinitely powerful. Getting rid of Phoenix would be like God clipping its fingernails "Hey that kind of vibrated my finger a little.....oh well."
Phoenix ranks below TOAA as ive said many a time lol however what you're not getting MG is that its not something TOAA created on the side as a tool to make creation. The Phoenix Force is TOAA's creation power. Thats what you seem unable to grasp. Its not a tool of TOAA its just an energy source his/its power. What would be the point in TOAA getting rid of his creation aspect. He'd still have that power reservoir. It just wouldnt be a seperate aspect known to the multiverse as the phoenix force. 😕
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
I have already said on a number of occassions in this thread that the Phoenix Force would rank below TOAA as it is just a part of him a fragment which doesnt encompass the whole. Ive never really debated with you before so i find the tone of your post puzzling. I hope youre not one to jump on the bandwagon.
Ive actually debated with you before, back in Unicron vs Pheonix. Remember "If Pheonix is so powerful, how come she cant turn into a car?" Granted I didnt spend an hour in front of the computer, and that thread got a little old though when everyone's replies got to be about a thousand words long. Needless to say you didnt really convince me, but that was a while back. Anyway, Nothing against Pheonix, or anything, but you seem to be coming off a bit strong on the whole Phoenix angle. I just want you to admit simply that TOAA could just wink Phoenix away if he wanted. You've said it amongst a big jumble of how this fight is so stupid and it could never happen, etc etc. I just want to hear you simply admit to it without going into how I dont like you, or Im jumping on bandwagons or I hate pheonix or PMing me saying everyone really likes you and its all a joke, or telling me how you've convinced people into worshiping Pheonix before. I mean, you seem to beleive that TOAA can do it, but you cant seem to simply state it. I find kinda amusing. If you want I could do some debating, but I dont think you'd really listen. I know I would be hard pressed to listen to someone that cant simply say "God easily Kills Phoenix" without misdirection.
Originally posted by MadguitaristBy choice I'd imagine. Not with out some major major plot induced stupidity would he.
I never said that you said that TOAA is ranked lower than Phoenix. GS you're talking like it would be impossible for TOAA to get rid of Phoenix in a way.
I mean what self respecting person would fight thieir "tool of creation"?
Cut it off and banish it? Could you?
Originally posted by Creshosk
Could you cut off and get rid of your tool of creation?
If I was TOAA, sure I could. It be like this.
TOAA: Well Im just chillin
Jesus: Hey TOAA, I heard people dont think you can beat Pheonix Force
TOAA: Oh yeah? Watch this *destroys pheonix force*
Phoenix: Noooo
Jesus: Why you do that?
TOAA: I work im mysterious ways BBEEEYYYYOTTTCCHHHH!!!!
Originally posted by OnikirimaruYou seem to be dodging the issue. Could you cut off your tool of creation and throw it away?
If I was TOAA, sure I could. It be like this.TOAA: Well Im just chillin
Jesus: Hey TOAA, I heard people dont think you can beat Pheonix Force
TOAA: Oh yeah? Watch this *destroys pheonix force*
Phoenix: Noooo
Jesus: Why you do that?
TOAA: I work im mysterious ways BBEEEYYYYOTTTCCHHHH!!!!
Originally posted by Creshosk
You seem to be dodging the issue. Could you cut off your tool of creation and throw it away?
Im not dodging the issue my saying TOAA has total omnipotence so he can do whatever he wants. Just that simple. He is TOAA. God. He can do anything. He could one day decide that he doesnt like Jesus hanging around in his ear talking about forgiving sins, and toss him away. Then things will go back to old school, old testament style. Just like he could decide he doesnt need a tool of creation hanging around his work shop, and destroy it. If he ever needs to create anything ever again, he could fart out a planet and call it the God Fart force if he wanted. So Jean Grey would be flying around space trying to get everyone to take her seriously since she is the manifestation of a fart.
He is god. He can do anything.
Originally posted by Onikirimaru
Im not dodging the issue my saying TOAA has total omnipotence so he can do whatever he wants. Just that simple. He is TOAA. God. He can do anything. He could one day decide that he doesnt like Jesus hanging around in his ear talking about forgiving sins, and toss him away. Then things will go back to old school, old testament style. Just like he could decide he doesnt need a tool of creation hanging around his work shop, and destroy it. If he ever needs to create anything ever again, he could fart out a planet and call it the God Fart force if he wanted. So Jean Grey would be flying around space trying to get everyone to take her seriously since she is the manifestation of a fart.He is god. He can do anything.
Why don't you just openly say that you could cut off your tool of creation and throw it away?
Can't you just come out and say that?
Originally posted by Madguitarist
I can't cut my "tool of creation" off because I can't magically make it heal like TOAA could if he got rid of Phoenix. If I were to chop off my arm or leg it wouldn't grow back so it's a stupid move but TOAA can easily make up for Phoenix Force's absence.
But you could if you wanted to right?