The source + TOAA versus Phoenix force

Originally posted by wannabe
1)I'm not at all a zealot of anyone/anything! I'm not even a fan of Phoenix(look at my signature)!

2)I was using irony...that's why i used that grinning smilie!

3)With "rude" i didn't mean expressing another opinion than my own, but INSULTING comments like "Troll", "Idiot", questioning someones ability to read at all, etc.!!!

4)Did i say anything insulting, agressive, immensly dull, outrageous, personally threatening, disgusting or zealous to earn a reaction to my last post like yours?🤨
(honest nonironic question!)

If it was irony ❌

If it wasn't ✅

only you know the truth 🙂

Who's a troll?

Originally posted by Whirlysplatt
If it was irony ❌

If it wasn't ✅

only you know the truth 🙂

Who's a troll?

If that was not your intention I apologise🙂

Originally posted by Whirlysplatt
If that was not your intention I apologise🙂

The "Troll" was just an example i read some pages ago...

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Leons knowldeg like yours and richs doesnt extend beyond the retcon period. So you're merely agreeing with ignorance. Its all good though. Believe what you will. 😄

Don't know about Leons and the rest, but i wouldn't assume too much for me. I have no knowledge of Phoenix beyond what I read from your postings.

Could you please answer the following question.

If this thread was Phoenix of the white Crown(Jean Grey) Vs TOAA and the Source then you could have a debate going.

Okay I'll bite then what's your take on this?

Could TOAA and the source possibly win?

Originally posted by Richrf
Don't know about Leons and the rest, but i wouldn't assume too much for me. I have no knowledge of Phoenix beyond what I read from your postings.

Could you please answer the following question.

Could TOAA and the source possibly win?

Against the White Crown Phoenix Yeah. Because shes the tool who taps into the supreme beings power.

However this thread is referring to the Phoenix force which is why it doesnt make sense, because in crossovers phoenix force is the source and both are just part of the supreme being.

So yes TOAA and the Source out rank the white crown phoenix as has been clarified many a time prior. 😕

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Against the White Crown Phoenix Yeah. Because shes the tool who taps into the supreme beings power.

However this thread is referring to the Phoenix force which is why it doesnt make sense, because in crossovers phoenix force is the source and both are just part of the supreme being.

So yes TOAA and the Source out rank the white crown phoenix as has been clarified many a time prior. 😕

As do Gods Vengence, Lucifer, Jesse Custer with Genesis, Morpheus in the dreaming, The LT, In betweener and lots of others imo 🙂

Originally posted by Whirlysplatt
As do Gods Vengence, Lucifer, Jesse Custer with Genesis, The LT, In betweener and lots of others imo 🙂

Yeah so whats your point? This thread was about the phoenix force which was ridiculous. The maker didnt know the difference.

The abstracts are created by the avatar with each creation cycle im afraid. So yeah in a way you could say they draw on the power of creation but obviously not as much as the white crown phoenix who brought them into existence with said power. Eternity says the phoenix power is responsible for his creation and his rebirth in the creation cycle (Xmen 4eva) and Jean is stated to be the avatar responsible for using the power to make creation (Xmen The End)

So the white crown Phoenix is a peer of LT but whilst he is ultimately a victim of the creation process the phoenixes are constants. Forever steering evolution towards the omega point.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Yeah so whats your point? This thread was about the phoenix force which was ridiculous. The maker didnt know the difference.

The abstracts are created by the avatar with each creation cycle im afraid. So yeah in a way you could say they draw on the power of creation but obviously not as much as the white crown phoenix who brought them into existence with said power. Eternity says the phoenix power is responsible for his creation and his rebirth in the creation cycle (Xmen 4eva) and Jean is stated to be the avatar responsible for using the power to make creation (Xmen The End)

So the white crown Phoenix is a peer of LT but whilst he is ultimately a victim of the creation process the phoenixes are constants. Forever steering evolution towards the omega point.

Show me where it says it "made creation" (ironic phrase 😂 🙂 )

Against the White Crown Phoenix Yeah. Because shes the tool who taps into the supreme beings power.

However this thread is referring to the Phoenix force which is why it doesnt make sense, because in crossovers phoenix force is the source and both are just part of the supreme being.

To clarify one more time You are saying that Jean Grey would lose to TOAA+The source?

Why? Is it because she doesn't control the PF 100%? Or is it God is more powerful than PF?

Originally posted by Richrf
To clarify one more time You are saying that Jean Grey would lose to TOAA+The source?

Why? Is it because she doesn't control the PF 100%? Or is it God is more powerful than PF?

Because shes an avatar shes tapping into Gods power so of course she'd lose against god. Phoenix Force is that power, Gods power thats all it is. Its not an entity. Its just called the phoenix force because its what the phoenixes (the avatars) tap into

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Because shes an avatar shes tapping into Gods power so of course she'd lose against god. Phoenix Force is that power, Gods power thats all it is. Its not an entity. Its just called the phoenix force because its what the phoenixes (the avatars) tap into

Show me a scan saying the Phoenix Force is "Gods Power" 🙂

you guys are absolutely ASTOUNDING! keep it coming!

😄

Originally posted by leonidas
you guys are absolutely ASTOUNDING! keep it coming!

😄

🙂 😂 Thanks Leo 😕 I hope 😮

Originally posted by Whirlysplatt
Show me a scan saying the Phoenix Force is "Gods Power" 🙂

I'll direct you to an issue. New Xmen 154. The Phoenix power derives from the Crown as stated. The Crown is the home of Gods consciousness. With a little nod to the omega point theory the phoenix avatars are directed in the crown by an unseen computer like voice.

The phoenix power being derived from the Crown should be enough for you. As should the fact that Jean is responsible for the creation cycle as clearly stated in Xmen Forever is the natural order of creation. It is something LT TOAA's servant is affected by so isnt it safe to presume Jean carries out the will of the supreme being.

Youre being fallacious Whirly. It doesnt suit you. 😉

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
I'll direct you to an issue. New Xmen 154. The Phoenix power derives from the Crown as stated. The Crown is the home of Gods consciousness. With a little nod to the omega point theory the phoenix avatars are directed in the crown by an unseen computer like voice.

The phoenix power being derived from the Crown should be enough for you. As should the fact that Jean is responsible for the creation cycle as clearly stated in Xmen Forever is the natural order of creation. It is something LT TOAA's servant is affected by so isnt it safe to presume Jean carries out the will of the supreme being.

Youre being fallacious Whirly. It doesnt suit you. 😉

Don't direct show me where it says its "Gods Power", Not Crowns or anything else 🙂 "Gods power". 🙂

seriously, gs, why do you associate the crown with god's consciousness? is it that same issue where it says the crown and god's consciousness are one and the same?

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Because shes an avatar shes tapping into Gods power so of course she'd lose against god. Phoenix Force is that power, Gods power thats all it is. Its not an entity. Its just called the phoenix force because its what the phoenixes (the avatars) tap into

Who decides who is going to have access to the PF? Does PF do the choosing?

Originally posted by leonidas
seriously, gs, why do you associate the crown with god's consciousness? is it that same issue where it says the crown and god's consciousness are one and the same?

I confused here.

PF is the source of God powers according to GS.

And the crown is God consciousness?

Seems to me , you might as well call PF, God. I'm starting to reconsider my positions that TOAA +The source can beat Jean Grey.

Originally posted by Richrf
Who decides who is going to have access to the PF? Does PF do the choosing?

Omega level mutants that have the genetic potential to tap into the phoenix force.

this is hopeless, if there were more people like galactic storm on this planet this world would be just filled with the deafening sound of overgrown crybabies who still cant give up their BABA and CANDY.