More Police Brutallity With Taser

Originally posted by PVS
and can you please point out the insult? or are you now just resorting to flatout lies? 😬

and you continue to argue a point which was thwarted. it goes against a cops duty to seek revenge and punish people. but hey, maybe if a failed point is repeated enough, it will become a valid point.

Originally posted by KharmaDog
But once a person is subdued, any further force is EXCESSIVE.

*edit*

Originally posted by jaden101
i'm sure they were in a better position to judge than you were...

as for the clip itself being from michaelmoore.com...we all know how he likes to edit footage to give certain slants on things...

I tend to be very dismissive to whatever that site claims. But there are times I will give him the benefit of the doubt. This kind of cases is what I like to call "Rodney King Videos". We all see the aftermath never the begining.

Originally posted by WindDancer
I tend to be very dismissive to whatever that site claims. But there are times I will give him the benefit of the doubt. This kind of cases is what I like to call "Rodney King Videos". We all see the aftermath never the begining.

Again........it..........does.............not...............matter. The supervising officer on duty said the worst that happened were cursings and shoving. But she might as well have SHOT one of the officers. As long as she was on the ground, restrained by 3 police officers, two of which had handcuffs, there was NO reason and NO excuse for getting off her and tasering her other than a swift "punishment". And THAT is wrong.

~wickerman~

yes, we all see the cops breaking the law and abusing their power, but they never show us WHY they are breaking the law and abusing their power....oh wait....thats irrelivent.

Originally posted by PVS
yes, we all see the cops breaking the law and abusing their power, but they never show us WHY they are breaking the law and abusing their power....oh wait....thats irrelivent.

I think it's because us liberals dream differently 😆

~wickerman~

and can you please point out the insult? or are you now just resorting to flatout lies?

we'll include the fact that in that one sentence you called me a liar...other words you've used to describe people who dont your opinion in this thread have been "sad" and "desperate"...i think they both qualify as insults

Originally posted by PVS
yes, we all see the cops breaking the law and abusing their power, but they never show us WHY they are breaking the law and abusing their power....oh wait....thats irrelivent.

Police abuse their power many times and everywhere.

Police are allowed to use taser-guns to subdue an unwilling individual who fails to comply with orders however Police departments should vigilantly guard against the abusive use of Taser guns, just as they
should guard against abuse of any kind.

Abuse or not, i would like to see the whole video to add more. I say this cause that woman could have just kicked the police officer

uts ultimatly Policies limiting the use of Taser guns should be strictly enforced, so that officers are held accountable if they resort to a Taser gun when safer and less painful methods can safely be used to obtain an offender's compliance.

Originally posted by GCG
Abuse or not, i would like to see the whole video to add more. I say this cause that woman [b]could have just kicked the police officer
[/B]

Even if she did kick an officer, there are three of them right there, there is no need to bring out the taser, and once again, it is a woman in poor physical shape that can't be over 130 pounds lying prone on the ground.

What would you have done if you were a cop and could not manage to subdue her ?

What would you have done if you and another Cop could not manage to subdue her ?

Originally posted by Wickerman
Again........it..........does.............not...............matter. The supervising officer on duty said the worst that happened were cursings and shoving. But she might as well have SHOT one of the officers. As long as she was on the ground, restrained by 3 police officers, two of which had handcuffs, there was NO reason and NO excuse for getting off her and tasering her other than a swift "punishment". And THAT is wrong.

~wickerman~

Cops are allowed to use tasers on people who refuse to comply with their orders.

As I said, at the beginning of the video you can see her kicking and flailing about just ever so slightly, this would suggest that she was physically resisting the officers up until the point the camera turned on, as such, the taser was allowed to be used.

You may not like it, but that's how it is. Also, what happened prior to the video is extremely relevant, because then we would be able to see if she was indeed actually physically resisting the officers or not.

Though I think it's pretty obvious that she was.

and you continue to argue a point which was thwarted. it goes against a cops duty to seek revenge and punish people. but hey, maybe if a failed point is repeated enough, it will become a valid point.

almost missed this

since when is stopping a crowd of people battering a camera man been an act of revenge?

Here is 'baldy' again dicharging his taser.

Notice the leg of the protestor who was gonna kick him and the woman who got tased being escorted away.

Originally posted by GCG
Here is 'baldy' again dicharging his taser.

Notice the leg of the protestor who was gonna kick him and the woman who got tased being escorted away.

in that particular situation, it was a justified use of the taser.

and jaden, please quit belly aching. i doubt my heart can take any more sorrow and guilt crybaby if you cant quote me calling you names, then you have no case buddy.

Oh !

BTW, New Tasers have a wire that allows you to insert in a computer so that it tells you how many times its been used. If checked regularly, it could deter Police from abusing it.

and jaden, please quit belly aching. i doubt my heart can take any more sorrow and guilt if you cant quote me calling you names, then you have no case buddy.

did i say you were calling me names...no...i said you resort to petty insults in general when people dont agree with you...then kharmadog adds a bit...then you add a bit...until it becomes a thread full of insults and a total waste of a debate

it doesn't take muc searching to find you calling someone a "sad waste of a life" or "fanatical" , "delusional"

Originally posted by GCG
What would you have done if you were a cop and could not manage to subdue her ?

What would you have done if you and another Cop could not manage to subdue her ?

Therein' lies the rub. A police officer is trained to immobilize 200 pound drunken and abbusive men. IF they were trained properly, and IF they showed correct judgement, one officer should have been enough to subdue her, two more than enough.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/august2005/230805utahrave.htm

more police brutality

Originally posted by KharmaDog
Therein' lies the rub. A police officer is trained to immobilize 200 pound drunken and abbusive men.

OH COME ON !

1 on 1 is anyone's bet !

You claim that 1 Police Officer is trained to subdue single handedly a drunkard ? I have to disagree with you there as the Police operate in a team and they are ALWAYS warned to never tackle situations alone. There is always a 'back-up buddy'

Originally posted by KharmaDog

and IF they showed correct judgement, one officer should have been enough to subdue her, two more than enough.

DEJÁ VU !

What would you have done if you were a cop and could not manage to subdue her ?

What would you have done if you and another Cop could not manage to subdue her ?

I have seen situations on COPS (that you watch) and similar genre that took up to 7 Police Officers to subdue a drunken 200 pound, unabiding, procrastinator to follow a police order ! ! !

Originally posted by GCG

What would you have done if you were a cop and could not manage to subdue her ?

i would realise that i was worthless as an officer and quit the force
since i was too weak to take down a 120lb lady who was already on the ground.

Originally posted by GCG

What would you have done if you and another Cop could not manage to subdue her ?

same as the first response, but i would also do my best to convince him to quit the force as well, since we were both too weak to take down a 120lb lady. what good is that?

Originally posted by GCG

I have seen situations on COPS (that you watch) and similar genre that took up to 7 Police Officers to subdue a drunken 200 pound, unabiding, procrastinator to follow a police order ! ! !

if i was police chief i would be handing out 7 pink slips