Originally posted by PVS
no not at all 🙄in fact, the poor living conditions are the result of liberals secretly sabotaging the system. however, they will soon be brought to justice.
Seriously though. Kids like this don't really get that a totalitarian regime doesn't just mean MENTALITY. It means hard cold fact. It means being tossed in jail if you complain to your neighbour that your newborn baby's too cold because you don't get enough heat in your appartment, etc. etc. No, i'm not exaggerating.
but yes......the dastardly liberals MUST DIEEEEEEEEEEEEE 🙄
~wickerman~
Originally posted by Wickerman
Seriously though. Kids like this don't really get that a totalitarian regime doesn't just mean MENTALITY. It means hard cold fact. It means being tossed in jail if you complain to your neighbour that your newborn baby's too cold because you don't get enough heat in your appartment, etc. etc. No, i'm not exaggerating.but yes......the dastardly liberals MUST DIEEEEEEEEEEEEE 🙄
~wickerman~
Not all totalitarian regime's are bad and I never said I wanted one I said protestors as in people who hold marches and dress up as trees and things,I like Democracy.
Originally posted by Wickerman
So....they're surrounded by protesters dressed in black with face covered marred by violence, and with the General Public in direct threat of harm's way. I see. Soooo......that's why there's initially 3 cops subduing ONE SINGLE SMALL WOMAN. Yes....makes incredible sense. The use of the taser was inappropriate, they got filmed while doing it, they should get kicked out of the force.~wickerman~
No notion on your sarcastic remarks.
Read my post again. You completly misunderstood what im saying
unless of course you wanted to interpret it that way 🙂
Originally posted by GCG
No notion on your sarcastic remarks.Read my post again. You completly misunderstood what im saying
unless of course you wanted to interpret it that way 🙂
I assure you that what i meant was that they were crappy cops. They have TESTS of how they handle "under pressure" operations. And if they DID get freaked out by having to do their duty and take out the hooded villains, they chose the wrong thing in having 3 damn cops restrain one single woman......and not even restrain her properly.
~wickerman~
Originally posted by Grand Moff Gav
Not all totalitarian regime's are bad and I never said I wanted one I said protestors as in people who hold marches and dress up as trees and things,I like Democracy.
How could you promote Democracy with one hand, while shooting these anti-war protestors for 'treason' with the other ?
😖
Doesnt anyone have the chance to re-habilitate IF they commited a crime ?
The issue here is not whether or not the woman deserved it. Nor is it to do with what happened before.I'm sure the coppers in america could handle situations like that quite adequately before they got tasers. They have clearly used it wrongly in this clip. If she's assaulted them and swore/spat or whatever then she's asking to get nicked. But force should be proportionate.
You first try and use your brain and powers of persuasion
if tht doesn't work
Then you try the threat of force
that doesn't work
you use your hands and try to restrain and cuff em
that doesn't work
same as before but more officers if possible(inthis case this was enough as we saw)
that don't work
Fists/kicks/baton strikes
that ain't working
more officers doing all of that
next
CS spray (if you have it)
all that doesn't work(and it would have to be a raging crack addict with excited delerium and thus extreme strength as well as a bunch of very weak, pussy officers for it not to), then taser could be maybe used. The taser was invented as a long range weapon to combat armed assailants with non firearm weaponry, the sort that keeps you at long range like a sword or axe etc or as a non-lethal alternative to using firearms(but personally if they got firearms, firearms should be used on em).
Police should be well capable of getting stuck in and using their hands and combat skills against a normal sized person like that. The american police usually are from what I've seen on TV. The ones on the clip were a bit silly in my humble opinion.
Police are officers of the public trust, they are your servants paid by your tax dollars. If they assault you, you should be able to assault them. Frankly, if a cop ever tried beating on me (again), i'd probably use a pressure point to break his hip and then file a complaint against the department. I don't want to have a taser induced epileptic seizure or extensive bridgework, or brain damage, or a funeral just cause Bush wants to instill fear in the populace or cause some cop needs another person to suffer so he can ejaculate.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3CdNgoC0cE&eurl=
UCLA student punished with taser for endangering the lives of police officers by....not standing up. if this isnt blatant evidence of a nonlethal weapon being used for torture i dont know what is.
a taser is a nonlethal means of disabling a suspect, for the safety of an officer. not "do as i say, when i say it, or you suffer".
:edit: not to mention they already had him on the ground. at that point he should have been cuffed and brought in. there really is no excuse for this shit. nobody was in danger, especially those power tripping scumbags
whats next? "roll over!!!! bark like a dog!!!! I SAID BARK LIKE A DOG!!!!" *ZAP*
Originally posted by FeceMan
Videos are best when they have accompanying news reports.I'm just wondering: why do you insist on posting all of this? So we know that nonlethal weaponry can be used for torture? Because anyone with half a brain already realizes this.
hmmm...if its so insignificant than why did you just waste 20 seconds of your life posting that? you'll never get that time back. was it worth it?
:edit: does the presence of an anchorman make it any more or less valid? are you suggesting this was staged? its all pretty simple to follow imho
Originally posted by PVS
hmmm...if its so insignificant than why did you just waste 20 seconds of your life posting that? you'll never get that time back. was it worth it?
:edit: does the presence of an anchorman make it any more or less valid? are you suggesting this was staged? its all pretty simple to follow imho
he was in the library without an i.d. card. whatever the case: lets say he ran around the place with his pecker hanging out screaming "WORSHIP THE GOLDEN SNAKE!!!". does it matter? the police were in control of the situation, the 'suspect' was subdued, and they proceeded to use their tasers as a punishment device.
Without any more of the video to look at, the video doesn't mean anything. And non-violent protest just means that they weren't throwing things at the police. It doesn't mean they weren't shoving, being disorderly or being uncooperative. You can't tell anything from it. And I don't see anything in the news article to make me think the police did anything wrong, either.
In short, you can gather virtually no information at all from that.
Originally posted by Kinneary
Without any more of the video to look at, the video doesn't mean anything. And non-violent protest just means that they weren't throwing things at the police. It doesn't mean they weren't shoving, being disorderly or being uncooperative. You can't tell anything from it. And I don't see anything in the news article to make me think the police did anything wrong, either.In short, you can gather virtually no information at all from that.
yeah, i should have started a new thread. please view the UCLA student video a few posts up.