Originally posted by botankus
If your conscious has the capability of not only remembering a law while you're being beaten and dragged, but sounding like you're trying to win best supporting actor in a freakin' motion picture at the same time, maybe you need to get a hobby.
wow, excuse this guy for reminding the officers (while being tasered) of the law they need to follow so as not to abouse power.
And what does getting a hobby have to do with anything? I'm sure this kid's hobby isn't to scream at an officer about the patriot actwhile being tased.
Wow, that video was extremely upsetting. This is one case where the video clearly does show them blatantly abusing their authority and misusing their taser, which is supported by the news story. Very worrying that these 8th rate rent-a-cops on the UCLA campus even have tasers, when they obviously have little idea when/how to use them. Hope they all get fired, fined and possibly jailed. Even the other students immediately knew something was wrong, and asked for their information within a minute or two, to which one of the cops responded by threatening tasering the person asking for this information. Good lord. What shitty human beings. Ew.
Originally posted by KidRock
Funny we only see the part of the clip where she is getting tazered. Not the part where she didnt listen to police to stop blocking the street. "Non violent" yeah.. ok. Next time she will listen to the police.
Found a video:
Doesn't matter, every eyewitness account says that when the cops came he was in the process of leaving, walking towards the door with his backpack on.
And no, he wasn't being a "good citizen", obviously. He was being an ass, and didn't get up and leave right away. But that doesn't necessitate getting tasered 5 times, several of which were done while he was handcuffed.
Also, threatening other students by saying "you'll get tazed too" is simply unacceptable, almost as much as tasering someone WHILE they're already handcuffed.
I would say this is a case in which neither side is right. All the guy had to do is show them his ID and clear the manner in an adult way. Not yelling out crap...which is just not an acceptable way to respond to authority. The guards on the hand should have just taken pepper spray and carry him out. Which when think about it...they guy would have still been yelling crap. Keep in mind that everyday a peace officer in his line of duty will ask people for identification. All you have to do is show it and case over. ID cards are always important. That is why everyone should carry it all the time.
Neither side is right, but one side is much much more wrong than the other, and that side is that of the officers. Tasering a guy 5 times is undeniably excessive, especially seeing as all he did was yell, there are no reports of him physically fighting, except when he wouldn't get up after the first taser. Of course, these brilliant officers of the law don't seem to be aware of the fact that tasering someone for 5 seconds can result in immobolizing a person for several minutes, which would explain why he victim wasn't standing up rushing out when they asked him too after being tasered.
It also seems that the officer who tasered the guy has has prior problems with abuse, and has been sued, and was fired from the Long Beach PD
Originally posted by BackFire
Doesn't matter, every eyewitness account says that when the cops came he was in the process of leaving, walking towards the door with his backpack on.And no, he wasn't being a "good citizen", obviously. He was being an ass, and didn't get up and leave right away. But that doesn't necessitate getting tasered 5 times, several of which were done while he was handcuffed.
Also, threatening other students by saying "you'll get tazed too" is simply unacceptable, almost as much as tasering someone WHILE they're already handcuffed.
As I said this is a case in which neither side is right. The guy was given a fair warning to stand up yet he opted to yell "DON'T TOUCH ME". In many cases you have to obey the authority of a peace officer. From my POV of the video he was also trying to rally the libray patrons in favor of his rebellion. I'll give you the actions of the peace officers did exceed. That still doesn't justify the guy disobeying an order to stand up. He is not been ask to do anything embarrassing or complicated. If he has nothing to fear he would obey the order.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
but what was he doing BEFORE the cops arrived? WHY were they called? obviously something happened that someone thought was serious enough to call the cops. when you are a suspect, and the cops arrive, you CANNOT just leave. i think he did something that someone thought they had to call the cops on, and, when they showed up, he would not leave. then, when he tried to leave, it was too late. the cops HAD to detain him. it sounds to me like he fought them tooth and nail, forcing them to taze him. would you have rather them beat the hell out of him with their batons? no......tazers are non lethal weapons that defuse a situation without causing bodily harm to the suspect. they are a necessity in this day and age. thats why cops carry them, to keep from injuring suspects. they only fall back to their batons, asp's, or sidearms when left with non other choice.
No, did you read the reports?
Here is what happened, and no this isn't on video, it doesn't have to be, it's supported by every single person who was there:
Campus security asked him for his Student ID, since only UCLA students are allowed to use the computers after 11:00 pm (The incident took place at 11:30). He failed to produce one, so they told him he had to leave. They left, came back a few minutes later and he hadn't left yet. They then called the UCLA police department because he hadn't left. As the police entered, he was in the process of leaving. One of the cops stopped him, and grabbed his arm. He objected to this, which is what you can hear at the beginning of the video, him yelling. The cops then tasered him and you can see the rest. This is literally ALL that happened prior to the video. He didn't have his ID card, and didn't leave right away and didn't want to be touched.
Again, yes he was wrong in not leaving right away, and he was wrong in yelling at the cops, but the fact is, what the officers did is much worse. They tasered him 5 times, several of which were while he was totally subdued and in handcuffs. The cops also threatened to taser other students. Quite simply, the punishment does not fit the crime.