Well, it really depends on who their toughest nemesis is. So you're basically negating any individuals' advantage in fighting skill over another competitor, because they have a different opponent they have to face.
Now, for example, if you changed the way each challenge was dealt on a person by person case, the entire situation would be different.
Originally posted by Darth_Janus
I'll finish it. I had a terrible twenty minute phone call right before the end of work (Or more accurately, at ten til) and couldn't finish.The second trial is one of mental acuity. The players are introduced to a bar full of perhaps thirty professional gamblers. (EDIT: not half as I posted before, only six) of these are cheats. Acting under the authority of Jedi enforcers (This is a guise, to ensure that they can arrest the offenders) they must ferret out six people using shifters. Again, this is a lengthy challenge, and the players involved must remain low profile and not reveal that they are jedi unless they must make an arrest. And of course, if they bust one guy and go "OMG, I'm a jedi, ur coming with me." The others are gonna get real suspicios, real quick. So the point here is, the three must come up with effiecient and creative ways to isolate and capture these six cheats without blowing their cover as jedi "knights", while sticking to the tenets of the jedi (That is, no disentegrations. Mass aggressive uses of Force powers will be detrimental...) Feel free to work with this one, since I know these type of trials are very wild. Again, don't be afraid to add or subtract a bit from the equation. All I'm looking for is a reasonable, thought out answer to this problem.
The third and final trial is one of blood. The players each confront their worst nemesis fighting at a severe disadvantage. For Yoda, he must fight Darth Sidious. For them, the location is the hall of the senate, with Sidious already comandeering the upper levels. Both are armed with their weapons of choice, but Yoda must work quickly to ascend and overcome Sidious enough to spill first blood (All that is needed is one drop of blood for this trial and the opponent is vanquished.) to overcome any time advantages in the hands of the other competitors. For Revan, he must fight the likes of Darth Malak and his apprentice Bandon, in the heart of the Star Forge. In this case, Revan must spill the blood of Malak, since Bandon is merely added to the equation to make it more difficult. And finally Exar Kun must face off against two opponents himself: the mighty Ulic Ql-Droma, and his old master Vodo. In this trial, he must successfully draw the blood of Ulic, since he has already defeated Vodo before.
There you have it. And time is up. Round four begins!
Task Two
This is probably the most complicated task yet. . .
Well, in first comes Revan. A simple mind trick may reveal the cheats, although it'd have to be rather creative to hide the Jedi factor, or the Force trick itself, for that matter. But Revan, with all his cunning, could probably pull it off. Not to mention that he's probably had some experience gambling. Sorry if this sounds crappy. Just a hard task to do.
In second is Yoda. Now, Kun's not slow, but he is somewhat of a hot-head; I doubt he could perform this task with the ease and calm of Revan and the 900 year-old green dude. Yoda, just like Revan, could reveal the cheaters through mind tricks and cunning word-play, perhaps fooling the gamblers into cheating in public.
And in third, unfortunately, is Exar. He's no fool, and this is a very close match-up, but I don't think he'd be able to smoot-talk his way as easily as the others. Maybe intimidate a few guys, but that'd be a little suspicious. Like I said, hard challenge here.
Places:
1) Darth Revan
2) Master Yoda
3) Exar Kun
Task Three
I was waiting for something like this. . .
In first place is Kun himself. He knows Ulic best, seeing as how they were Master and Apprentice. And they have dueled before. The two have both improved greatly, but Exar has surpassed him greatly. A piece of shrapnel, rock, maybe simply a good hit with the hilt of his lightsaber, whatever. He takes this.
In second is Yoda. While surely the fastest here, I doubt he'll be able to bloody up Ulic as quickly as Exar, especially seeing as how the hilt of his saber'll be doing anything to Ulic. 😛 Then again, he does have his little talons. . .
And lastly is Revan. He lacks the intimacy and understanding of Ulic that Exar possesses, and his speed doesn't match up to that of Yoda. He might do it with environmental factors, but I doubt that he can do it as fast as the others.
Places:
1) Exar Kun
2) Master Yoda
3) Darth Revan
Total:
Exar Kun: 3, 1, 3
Master Yoda: 1, 2, 2
Darth Revan: 2, 3, 1
Overall:
1) Master Yoda
2) Darth Revan
3) Exar Kun
Kun's out.
And in third, unfortunately, is Exar. He's no fool, and this is a very close match-up, but I don't think he'd be able to smoot-talk his way as easily as the others. Maybe intimidate a few guys, but that'd be a little suspicious. Like I said, hard challenge here.
The guy hid himself from the Jedi and recruited a bunch of Jedi to the dark side on Ossus, I don't think that his "hot-headedness" will get in the way of his mission. He's hotheaded, but that's probably not even the one word I'd use to describe him if I had to describe him in one word. Nothing interferes between Kun and his goal, especially not his hot-headedness.
Originally posted by Darth Faunus
Which is why I said "hard challenge." It's hard to compare these guys on that level of complexity.And of course "hot-headed" isn't what he'd be immediately described as. Powerful, mighty, etc., etc.
Even if you were to discount all of those traits and simply try to describe his personality, hot-headed may only be the third or fourth trait that comes to mind. Kun is seriously underrated as far as guile goes.
Originally posted by Darth Faunus
[B]Task TwoThis is probably the most complicated task yet. . .
Well, in first comes Revan. A simple mind trick may reveal the cheats, although it'd have to be rather creative to hide the Jedi factor, or the Force trick itself, for that matter. But Revan, with all his cunning, could probably pull it off. Not to mention that he's probably had some experience gambling. Sorry if this sounds crappy. Just a hard task to do.
In second is Yoda. Now, Kun's not slow, but he is somewhat of a hot-head; I doubt he could perform this task with the ease and calm of Revan and the 900 year-old green dude. Yoda, just like Revan, could reveal the cheaters through mind tricks and cunning word-play, perhaps fooling the gamblers into cheating in public.
And in third, unfortunately, is Exar. He's no fool, and this is a very close match-up, but I don't think he'd be able to smoot-talk his way as easily as the others. Maybe intimidate a few guys, but that'd be a little suspicious. Like I said, hard challenge here.
Places:
1) Darth Revan
2) Master Yoda
3) Exar KunTask Three
I was waiting for something like this. . .
In first place is Kun himself. He knows Ulic best, seeing as how they were Master and Apprentice. And they have dueled before. The two have both improved greatly, but Exar has surpassed him greatly. A piece of shrapnel, rock, maybe simply a good hit with the hilt of his lightsaber, whatever. He takes this.
In second is Yoda. While surely the fastest here, I doubt he'll be able to bloody up Ulic as quickly as Exar, especially seeing as how the hilt of his saber'll be doing anything to Ulic. 😛 Then again, he does have his little talons. . .
And lastly is Revan. He lacks the intimacy and understanding of Ulic that Exar possesses, and his speed doesn't match up to that of Yoda. He might do it with environmental factors, but I doubt that he can do it as fast as the others.
Places:
1) Exar Kun
2) Master Yoda
3) Darth RevanTotal:
Exar Kun: 3, 1, 3
Master Yoda: 1, 2, 2
Darth Revan: 2, 3, 1
Overall:
1) Master Yoda
2) Darth Revan
3) Exar KunKun's out. [/B]
I agree with everything here except task three. IMO Revan is considerbly stronger than Ulic being around somewhere between Ulic and Kun in strength. Kun of course would turn Ulic into Jawa burgers with a snap. Sure Yoda is fast, but IMO I don't think he is as powerful as Revan.
So my final lineup is.
1. Exar Kun(Kun is not the hothead everyone thinks he is)
2. Revan
3. Yoda
Hmph. I guess you're right. I tried to incorporate that into my pots. Didn't turn out well. I did try to clarify, so bear with me.
And what's your take on it? I was kind of leaning towards Yoda and Exar over Revan, but posting at midnight when I'm usually a daytime chump kinda messes up my perspectives.
Originally posted by Rand al'Thor
I agree with everything here except task three. IMO Revan is considerbly stronger than Ulic being around somewhere between Ulic and Kun in strength. Kun of course would turn Ulic into Jawa burgers with a snap. Sure Yoda is fast, but IMO I don't think he is as powerful as Revan.So my final lineup is.
1. Exar Kun(Kun is not the hothead everyone thinks he is)
2. Revan
3. Yoda
It's whoever draws first blood. Not who kills him. First blood. And Yoda's talons coupled with some God-Speed make him a spinning, razored top.
Originally posted by Darth Faunus
Hmph. I guess you're right. I tried to incorporate that into my pots. Didn't turn out well. I did try to clarify, so bear with me.And what's your take on it? I was kind of leaning towards Yoda and Exar over Revan, but posting at midnight when I'm usually a daytime chump kinda messes up my perspectives.
Hmm...
I will admit my opinons are perhaps somewhat bias towards Revan, but I also think that Kun is a lot smarter then anyone gives him credit for and really Revan is a hard character in any debate or vs thread. Sure we know some about him but he is not nearly as structered as Kun or Yoda.
Oh, and by the way, I'd like to change my decision for Task Two.
In first place is Exar Kun. After a reminder from Illustrious, and a little thinking on my part, he rises from last to first here. I misinterpreted his abilities earlier. In fact, I don't remember a time when he didn't get what he was looking for, what he wanted. . . Combine determination, rather impressive wits and whatnot, and a physique to indimidate all, I say he wins this.
In second place comes Yoda. That's right. Not Revan, Yoda. I've completely changed my lineup here. Nine hundred years of negotiations, diplomatic or aggressive, tends to give a brutha a way with words. And I stand by what I said earlier, about the mind trick and such.
Now, strangely, Revan ends up in last. He is cunning, to be sure, and probably can manipulate the gamblers pretty well, but I doubt that he could match up to Exar's sheer intimidation, threats. . . playing with the mind. I wouldn't be too eager to cheat against a guy who makes the ground shake. And Yoda's nine hundred years give him just some sort of advantage, don't you think?
So, with these new results, I vote Exar and Yoda in, and Revan out.
Originally posted by Rand al'Thor
Hmm...I will admit my opinons are perhaps somewhat bias towards Revan, but I also think that Kun is a lot smarter then anyone gives him credit for and really Revan is a hard character in any debate or vs thread. Sure we know some about him but he is not nearly as structered as Kun or Yoda.
Sorry, that was to Illustrious.