A Decent Versus Thread...

The first task I think will go in order of Kun, Revan, and then Yoda. Yoda may have some difficulty taking the spear, and without the force, I'd have to say he will not be able to move very fast.. Kun, of course, is expertly conditioned, a fearsome physical specimen and capable with weapons, especially since he is able to create his own lightsaber style that leaves very few survivers. Revan is a wildcard, we don't know about his lightsaber prowess, so we can't guage his ability with most weapons and coordination. I suspect though, that he isn't 900 years old and doesn't use a cane to walk, so he'd finish second.

1) Exar
2) Revan
3) Yoda

The second task I have to agree with Faunus. Exar has sheer intimidation and a flair for getting exactly what he wants. He was subtle enough to go under the noses of the Jedi, even when there were thousands of them, and was only defeated when he was betrayed and they sent thousands upon thousands of forces against him. Exar will be able to weasel out the cheats. Revan is cunning, but I think Yoda has a greater ability to "read" people than he does. Yoda has trained presumably, hundreds of padawans, if not thousands, in his long career. He has seen and has experience with all different kinds of people. Wizened by time, he knows what is what.

1) Exar
2a) Yoda
2b) Revan

In the third task, Exar completes the sweep. He knows Ulic, he was proclaimed master. And at his peak (which I'm assuming we're taking all three at their highpoint), Exar was a straight up fearsome lightsaber duelist. Exar dices up Ulic. Yoda is deceptive. He's simply so quick and acrobatic, that it's very difficult to defend against him. He will simply find a chink in Ulic's armor, and take him apart. Followed quickly by Revan, who finishes off the Sith apprentice. Revan has knowledge and battle training, he can likely defeat someone like Ulic, however, he does not have as much lightsaber to lightsaber experience as someone like Kun, who has defeated so many Jedi, it's not even funny any more. Revan is more methodical, in many cases, it would help. But against Yoda and Exar, who are speed killers, he will be the low man.

Final Order:

1) Kun
2) Yoda
3) Revan

Yoda is close to Revan, but I can't see Revan having the advantage here.

I have the same results in everything except for the first task. . . You didn't really address it. But no matter, same results.

Revan: 2

Illustrious, Faunus

First Task-

Yoda here is being underestimated i think. in ROTS we see him crawling around through the shafts and such of the Senate building, and so even without the Force, i'm sure with his wisdom and small size, he could find ways to the object that Revan and Exar Kun can't. and once he gets it, he can take the same ways out...keeping others from following him, or he could hide out somewhere, if they find out he took it. or if he was being followed, he could just turn on his pursuers and take his sword/cane thing to them.

Exar Kun would do really well here too i think. besides his physical ability, and superious saber skills, we've said nothing keeps him from his goal. Exar would get that object one way or another, and no one would keep him from getting out, he could either out run them or just cut them all down.

Revan- i think Revan will fall behind here. yes he's a tactical genious and all, and though he could use his weapon, i think he couldn't sneak in as well as Yoda, and isn't as fit as Exar, or as skilled with a saber if it came to fighting many trained mercs.

1. Exar
2. Yoda
3. Revan

Task Two

Yoda- here i think Yoda takes the lead. his many years of wisdom and probable experience in such things, added with his ability to use the Force on these weak-minded cheaters, and then add his small, sneaky size, he could get all the cheaters before most people even knew he was there.

Exar Kun- as we've said, Exar's impressive form will intimidate most people here, and his ability to get what he wants, as well as the Force, will help him. though i think the people he's talking to, while intimidated, wont fall to that as quickly as most people. so Exar may not complete this as quickly.

Revan- once again, Revan seems to be falling behind. he doesn't have the intimidation of Exar, or the wisdom of Yoda. however, i think he'll do well by being able to use the Force and his tactical mind.

1. Yoda
2. Exar
3. Revan

Third Task-

Yoda- Yoda's fighting ability, use for the Force, and talons are going to do well here. if he wanted, Yoda could keep ulic busy with his saber while using the Force to throw a bunch of rocks at him, at least 1 probably hitting ulic and causing him to bleed.

Exar Kun- as we've stated before, Exar will dominate Ulic because he's not only so much more powerful, but because he knows Ulic. no questions asked here.

Revan- being slower, and perhaps not the best duelist, or user of the Force, Revan will once again fall behind here. though i think in the end he'll succeed, it may take a while.

1. Exar Kun
2. Yoda
3. Revan

so the final line-up is

1. Exar Kun
2. Yoda
3. Revan

Well, now, the final line-up is the same, but I think you sorely underestimate Revan. But, yes, he will be voted out this Round.

Revan: 3

Illustrious, Faunus, BlackVortex

Yoda: 1

Rand al' Thor

First task.

Revan is going to be first.

Exar Kun is to big to sneak around, Yoda can not move well without the force, he will have to crawl and he will be slow. Not to mention that if he does meet anybody he won't be able to do shit without the force to help him.

Revan on the other hand does know how to fight without the force and Exar Kun is strong so he could do it too. Because Revan is probably better at sneaking around then Exar I think he will win this fight.

1.) Revan
2.) Exar
3.) Yoda

On to the next challenge.

Finding the gamblers, now I know some of you have said Revan would not pull off, I think he would do great here, its his element. Don't forget he spend a pretty big portion of his life converting people to the Dark Side, he was a leader and an inspiration to many, he has a great natural charisma and is a great speaker according to the Jedi. I think he would have no problem at all when he wants to find the cheats.

Exar Kun will come in second, he inspires fear, people will back up and quickly tell him what he wants to know. But it will take some more time at the end because people will notice what he is doing, people won't notice as fast with Revan.

Yoda will be last, not because he can't do it, but because he is so small and different he will be noticed, people will think he is weird and when a weird person starts asking questions you get doubts about answering.

So thats

Revan
Exar
Yoda

Third challenge

Exar obviously does this first, he knows Ulic and is clearly more powerful.

I'm not quite sure on who is second, I know Yoda would be more of a surprise ot Ulic but I have not seen him strike fast at any time. Revan on the other hand would have a harder time against Ulic I think Yoda wins this and Revan comes in last.

So thats

Exar
Yoda
Revan

Making it

Revan 1-1-3
Exar 2-2-1
Yoda 3-3-2

Putting Revan and Exar on a split first place and kicking Yoda out.

Revan: 3

Illustrious, Faunus, BlackVortex

Yoda: 2

Rand al' Thor, Fishy

Exar Kun: 0

First trial:
Well. I don't see where Yoda is slow without the force. I guess he can be quite fast if he wants at least he has always the size advantage when it comes to sneaking through sewers or remaining undiscovered. I guess he has a good chance making it without fighting. Revan is a tactical mastermind and he might produce some plan to get into that slavers domain while Kun will more likely rely on direct confrontation which might take quite much time if he isn't allowed to use his force powers.

So I'd say:

1.) Yoda / Revan
2.) Yoda / Revan
3.) Kun

The first two places might be changed but I think Kun will lose this in any case.

Second trial:
Yoda is a wise guy and he will get what he wants to know quite quick here (maybe he can take some "Columbo" actions), same goes for Revan. I think Kun will have some troubles here because he's a hot-head.

1.) Yoda / Revan
2.) Yoda / Revan
3.) Kun

Again I'm not quite sure who will be the first but I'm sure Kun will have the most troubles here.

Third trial:
Now that is Kuns speciality and I have no doubt that he will finish first here because he knows Ulic best. Now again I'm not sure who will win. Ulic is not good enough to stop Revan or Yoda but since Yoda is not fast in killing or hurting people I think Revan might be faster than him to do so. That means

1.) Kun
2.) Revan
3.) Yoda

In total:
1.) Revan
2.) Yoda
3.) Kun

Kun is out !

On the moving thing, have you seen Yoda walk before fights, with the cane? He's slow and noisy, he would have to crawl if he didn't want to be detected and that will make Yoda really, really slow. At least I don't think so.

Originally posted by Fishy
On the moving thing, have you seen Yoda walk before fights, with the cane? He's slow and noisy, he would have to crawl if he didn't want to be detected and that will make Yoda really, really slow. At least I don't think so.

Yes he is but we don't know if he really needs that thing or if this is just understatement to hide his real powers. He got away from the senate quite fast in ROTS without using the force (as far as we saw).

Originally posted by Nai Fohl
Yes he is but we don't know if he really needs that thing or if this is just understatement to hide his real powers. He got away from the senate quite fast in ROTS without using the force (as far as we saw).

Agreed but he wasn't walking then either. And I don't think he uses it to look weak or old, he's not one to change appearances just to look weaker or stronger he is who he is. At least there is nothing to suggest otherwise. From the looks of it he needs the force to move fast, and he can't use that in this fight.

No Force powers. Janus meant things such as lightning, push, etc. The Force is second nature to a Jedi/Sith; they are almost nothing without it.

And Nai, Kun may be a hothead, but that sn't going to stop him from reaching his goal. he's not so hot-headed that he'd completely throw the mission. That's a silly assumption.

And as for the second task, I doubt it. Like I said, Kun's known for getting what he wants, through violence, yes, but also through intimidation and fear. Those gamblers would talk if they were faced with a guy who shook the ground.

And as for the third task, I agree. However, you seemed unsure. the reason that Yoda would come in second, above Revan, is because of his amazing speed, but also his talons. The task is to draw first blood, not kill. Exar and Revan would kill him faster, Exar would draw blood faster, but Revan falls behind here. But, whatever.

Revan: 3

Illustrious, Faunus, BlackVortex

Yoda: 2

Fishy, Rand al' Thor

Exar Kun: 1

Nai Fohl

1.yoda/Revan while Revans smart and knows the territory, yoda's size helps him, if I had to pick though Revan merely because he has more experience witht he area and is a tactical genius. Exar would just kill his way through he lacks the intelligence of the other two.

2.yoda and Revan are both extrmely intelligent, it comes down to whether you trust Revans street smarts or yoda's wisdom, Exar seems like the type to walk in, put a force barrier blocking escape and threaten to kill them all unless the cheaters come forward.

3.I'll give this one to Revan on the grounds that he is FAR superior to both malak and bandon, wheras sidious seemed only barely inferior to yoda and Ullic was possibly equal to exar and would put up a long fight.

so the placing is:

round 1

Revan
Yoda
Exar

round 2
Exar(if he threatens to kill them all)
yoda/Revan

Round 3

Revan
yoda
Exar-out

I wonder what round 5 will be, I've been reading through this thread and it's been awesome.

did you read the change of rules? for the new 3rd challenge all of them must draw first blood on Ulic. there are no others to fight.

1) Same as Nai. You think Exar's an idiot. far from. I've never heard of an instance where he hasn't gotten what he wanted. You guys play him for a fool. Not true. Now, I'd still put him in third, but simply because he won't be able to sneak his way through easily, and lacks the speed of Yoda.

2) Again. Fear and intimidation will bring him to first here. He's not an idiot. Not by a long shot. No one's gonna want to play him here.

3) Well, first off, you didn't read Janus' update. Everyone fights Ulic. Whoever draws first blood. So Exar first (Who better to bloody you then your Master?) , Yoda second (Bloody people up with talons while spinning like a top), and lastly, Revan (Lacks Exar's experience with Ulic, and Yoda's speed and talons).

When did Yoda ever draw quick blood? Ever?

He takes his time, more so then he should. Revan would not.

Yoda's never tried to draw blood. . .

First off, lightsaber's don't make people bleed.

Secondly, Yoda's only fought two people we know of, Count Dooku and Darth Sidious. His claws weren't even bared in his duel with Dooku, and he was only in saber range against Sidious for a few seconds. Ulic's not gonna run away like that.

and if he wanted, Yoda could use the Force to throw rocks at Ulic's head, and draw blood that way.

Yoda's speed, talons, and Force powers will dominate in this competition. perhaps not as well as Kun's, but close enough to be way ahead of Revan.

I very much doubt it... Revan and Kun would be far more offensive then Yoda and would draw blood faster.

And Faunus you are right, the force is in everything they do. But if Yoda can jump he is using the force more and unfairly then the rest I mean Revan and Exar could do it like that too and just jump over the rest towards the target take it and jump back.. So Yoda would still walk slow or crawl.

Yep.