Originally posted by newjak86
Because you choose not to accept because if you do then it is more then possible the X-Men loose even though it is as likey a possibility maybe less maybe more as Emma mind wiping everyone.
if it was a straight up fighgt, then I'd accept it. but emma was having a conversation with sue, and sue attacked. it was a cheap shot and emma wasn't fighting sue
Originally posted by stormfront13Yet she was in combat with Sue she wasn't attacking but she was still fighting if you will. Sue hit Emma with one attack and that was all that was needed to beat her. IUf you want to look at it any further than it really takes away from Emma the fact that she wasn't able to keep her defence up while she thought she had the upperhand. Meaning that if she can be so easily distracted once and not able to summon her power than it is likely to happen again and with someone in a fight that can take her out in one blow it is likely Emma can become a non factor quickly.
if it was a straight up fighgt, then I'd accept it. but emma was having a conversation with sue, and sue attacked. it was a cheap shot and emma wasn't fighting sue
Originally posted by newjak869
Yet she was in combat with Sue she wasn't attacking but she was still fighting if you will. Sue hit Emma with one attack and that was all that was needed to beat her. IUf you want to look at it any further than it really takes away from Emma the fact that she wasn't able to keep her defence up while she thought she had the upperhand. Meaning that if she can be so easily distracted once and not able to summon her power than it is likely to happen again and with someone in a fight that can take her out in one blow it is likely Emma can become a non factor quickly.
only sue was fighting, emma was talking. hardly combat. yeah, sue is one of the most powerful people in marvel. she only needs one shot to take down a lot of people. what defense dopes emma have besides going to diamond form which she wasn't in this fight? she wasn't keeping up a defense.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
It was a fight.I understand you don't like it, or obviously believe that there is one kind of fight, but that doesn't mean it wasn't a fight. Sue came out on top. I'm not sitting here trying to make you accept it because you won't will you? But it's true.
-AC
you can call it what you want, but emma wasn't fighting, so it can hardly be called a fight
Originally posted by newjak86
Yet she was in combat with Sue she wasn't attacking but she was still fighting if you will.
I still fail to see how this applies here, since the match is to the best of BOTH teams abilities.
Thats like saying, "wolverine beat sabretooth,by throwing him off guard", it doesn't mean the same thing.
Originally posted by newjak86Likewise, and it takes considerably less time to construct and construe a mind blast, than it does to make a force field.
Sue hit Emma with one attack and that was all that was needed to beat her.
Why, because the bubble is contingent on the targeting, which is contingent on the thought itself that it derives from.
Originally posted by newjak86
IUf you want to look at it any further than it really takes away from Emma the fact that she wasn't able to keep her defence up while she thought she had the upperhand.
This is the thing, its doesn't apply here.
Its like me saying,"spiderman beat venom with a sonic gun", but if spiderman doesn't have the gun, then its hardly worth mentioning.
Originally posted by newjak86
Meaning that if she can be so easily distracted once and not able to summon her power than it is likely to happen again
Likewise for sue, sue can be distracted just as well, she is protecting loved ones.
Emma has less quams for her team, and even LESS quams about incapacitating an opponent, permenantly.
Originally posted by newjak86
and with someone in a fight that can take her out in one blow it is likely Emma can become a non factor quickly.
likewise again, sue is only as durable as a human, they are both vurnerable if they aren't paying attention.
Like spellcasters.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
That's her fault, not Sue's.Don't subtract Sue's victory in the circumstance just because Emma let her guard down. It's her fault, not Sue's. Of course, you'll give Emma the benefit coz she's an X-Woman.
-AC
I'm not subtrACTING SUES victory. I just don't agreee with it. she won, that's fine, but it can hardly be called a fight
Originally posted by Tha C-MasterFrom the sounds you and me are in the same train of thought again. I believe this a toss up and any number of possible outcomes can happen.
I still fail to see how this applies here, since the match is to the best of BOTH teams abilities.Thats like saying, "wolverine beat sabretooth,by throwing him off guard", it doesn't mean the same thing.
Likewise, and it takes considerably less time to construct and construe a mind blast, than it does to make a force field.
Why, because the bubble is contingent on the targeting, which is contingent on the thought itself that it derives from.
This is the thing, its doesn't apply here.
Its like me saying,"spiderman beat venom with a sonic gun", but if spiderman doesn't have the gun, then its hardly worth mentioning.
Likewise for sue, sue can be distracted just as well, she is protecting loved ones.
Emma has less quams for her team, and even LESS quams about incapacitating an opponent, permenantly.
likewise again, sue is only as durable as a human, they are both vurnerable if they aren't paying attention.
Like spellcasters.
Originally posted by newjak86
From the sounds you and me are in the same train of thought again. I believe this a toss up and any number of possible outcomes can happen.
It is like our debate over power and skill.
Power of course, if its really significant, quite like batman and spiderman....
BIG difference in physiology there...
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
It wasn't a straight fight, but that doesn't mean she couldn't win one. Infact it adds to the chances she would. Emma is over-arrogant. Case in point: When she lost to Sue.-AC
I thought you said it wasn't a fight.
"It was a fight.
I understand you don't like it, or obviously believe that there is one kind of fight, but that doesn't mean it wasn't a fight. Sue came out on top. I'm not sitting here trying to make you accept it because you won't will you? But it's true.
-AC "
emma would probably win a straight up fight seeing as she can affect sue even inside her shield