Originally posted by demigawd
Given that it's Emma's only offensive power, I have trouble seeing why it would go any differently. I mean, it just wouldn't be logical for Emma to think, "I'm a telepath. They're vulnerable to telepathy. So I think I'll...run up to Ben and punch him".
You're a big fan of situational evidence. Not the most modest female is she? It led to Sue beating her before.
Originally posted by demigawd
With bloodlust turned on, I don't really see a different outcome. In fact, it's even slower, because now the FF are waiting for TWO actions. Sue shielding them, then Johnny supernoving everybody. In that amount of time, Emma would have made Sue shield the X-men and made Johnny supernova the FF.
Mind showing me where you got this from?
-AC
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Do we agree that it takes more time to conjure a shield, than it does to launch a telepathic assault?
Personally feel like I can't be sure, have seen no *evidence* either way.
Your sentence was quite clever though, almost like political spin, with the verbs 'conjure' and 'launch'.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
You're a big fan of situational evidence. Not the most modest female is she? It led to Sue beating her before.
Situation evidence? There are a lot of situations in which Emma would mindblast the FF, so yeah, I suppose so.
Emma isn't particularly modest, but the girl knows when to fight. And when she does, Sue is in trouble....
Mind showing me where you got this from?
Got what? The fact that Emma can control minds? Or the fact that Johnny would have to wait for Sue to shield them all before he goes nova?
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Multiple doesn't mean infinite, but maybe I'm silly. Just thought it'd roll that peanut out there. Maybe it'll be harvested, I don't know, I'm not a Squirrel.-AC
Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
Slightly different isn't it.
🙄 fine. MULTIPLE possibilties. There.
Originally posted by stormfront13
imo, it takes less time to launch a tp assualt
What a surprise there...
Originally posted by demigawd
Situation evidence? There are a lot of situations in which Emma would mindblast the FF, so yeah, I suppose so.Emma isn't particularly modest, but the girl knows when to fight. And when she does, Sue is in trouble....
Pretty and everything but not only is that all "would" but do you mind telling me who has one up in their one on one encounters? No need to go into "how" because we all know. But what was the result? Was it Emma getting a bit shown up? Yes.
Originally posted by demigawd
Got what? The fact that Emma can control minds? Or the fact that Johnny would have to wait for Sue to shield them all before he goes nova?
I never understood why people continually assume it takes Sue ages to shield them. It takes seconds, if that. He hasn't gotta stand around and call time out while she does it.
-AC
Originally posted by Victor Von Doomshhh, you're on to me.
Personally feel like I can't be sure, have seen no *evidence* either way.Your sentence was quite clever though, almost like political spin, with the verbs 'conjure' and 'launch'.
Okay do you agree that forming a field is contingent on targeting, which is contingent on thinking about it...
Vs just thinking about it?
The best way to stop a tp assault is to be ready for it. Magneto(Helmet), Forge(devise), Juggernaut(helmet) Or just be too powerful for it to have any affect whatsoever.
Without prep you would never know when its coming. A tp assault is one of the quickest ways to attack unless youre Flash or can TP. To think about stopping a tp assault via shield, would take more time than the attacker to use the tp attack.
Unless as soon as the fight starts, a shield goes up. But who fights like that?
Originally posted by stormfront13
Alpha, you just said that it might take seconds(plural, as in more than one) to shield them? then why do you think that a tp assualt wouldn't hit sue before she got a shield up. it doesn't even take a second to launch a tp assualt.
That would have nailed me in the face if I had actually said it might take seconds.
I said it takes seconds if that. It's a bit hard to judge from pictures but she seems to be no slouch. You can't prove a telepathic attack is faster or slower anyway, as discussed a good few pages back.
Let's not overlook the fact that a telepath's reaction time is nothing if they don't use it. Emma's arrogance is as has always been her downfall. It happened with Storm, it happened with Sue.
-AC
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
shhh, you're on to me.Okay do you agree that forming a field is contingent on targeting, which is contingent on thinking about it...
Vs just thinking about it?
I don't really. I think it's speculation that this is how it all works.
Maybe it will be proved to be so- I'll wait until then.
Have never seen it stated in those terms in the comics. Even so, as I've mentioned before, it's all a little bit too clockwork to decide upon a win like that. It's obviously a reasonable possibility, which is as far as I'll go on it.
Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
I don't really. I think it's speculation that this is how it all works.
Maybe it will be proved to be so- I'll wait until then.Have never seen it stated in those terms in the comics. Even so, as I've mentioned before, it's all a little bit too clockwork to decide upon a win like that. It's obviously a reasonable possibility, which is as far as I'll go on it.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
That would have nailed me in the face if I had actually said it might take seconds.I said it takes seconds if that. It's a bit hard to judge from pictures but she seems to be no slouch. You can't prove a telepathic attack is faster or slower anyway, as discussed a good few pages back.
Let's not overlook the fact that a telepath's reaction time is nothing if they don't use it. Emma's arrogance is as has always been her downfall. It happened with Storm, it happened with Sue.
-AC
you can't prove that sues attacks are faster or slower either. for Sue to be faster, she would have to be faster than the speed of thought which is highly doubtful. and the difference between storm and sue is that storm and emma were actually having a straight up fight. they were both in it. with sue, only sue was in the fight.