Originally posted by Creshosk
Yeah one sided fights.Where has she gained psionic shielding?
She didn't have it in the picture X posted. . .
I'm not saying it's some thing she has total control over but she has demonstrated it in the past as specified throughout the thread. Psi-Lord for example.
And no, not one sided fights. Verbal fight, physical fight etc.
-AC
Originally posted by Creshosk
Ah sio Emma was verbal fight when Sue was having a physical fight.Yeah, that shows it's valid evidence.
I claimed there were different kinds of fights, because there are. Fact.
They had a confrontation, Emma got over-confident and arrogant. Sue made her pay for it.
That's all there is to it.
-AC
Originally posted by newjak86
Exactly this is a team fight and thus a sneak attack is vaible and possible in this thread.
If you're asking, "isn't it possible that Sue could nail Emma with one shot?", then the answer most assuredly is yes. Most of the X-men and FF have one shot KO power over each other, so we're not really debating that. We're debating who could take who out first and how. So in that respect, I agree that Sue definitely has the ability to take out Emma with one shot. The better question is....will she? In some scenarios (like the one in X4), yes. In majority scenarios, I'd say no.
Originally posted by demigawd
Point being, who cares? You don't think Emma could have taken EVERYBODY out in that scan if she chose to instead of just giving them mild headaches?Emma takes Sue out first when they ARE fighting for reasons listed throughout the thread.
Next.
Haha, next would be me again. I grabbed two of those v-shaped paper tickets.
Could she have? Yes. Bearing in mind she came out of nowhere while they were fighting someone else, or confronting someone else, I'd say it's a bit dodgy but yes, she could have.l
The fact that Sue can react faster than Emma one on one says to me that Emma wouldn't have the win against Sue as easy as you claim she could.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Could she have? Yes. Bearing in mind she came out of nowhere while they were fighting someone else, or confronting someone else, I'd say it's a bit dodgy but yes, she could have.l
About as dodgy as Emma trash talking and Sue knocking her out, yes.
The fact that Sue can react faster than Emma one on one says to me that Emma wouldn't have the win against Sue as easy as you claim she could.
It's only easy in scenarios where Emma isn't taken out in the first second of the fight. As VV Doom pointed out, there are infinite possibilities, it's just that most of them don't look good for the FF, who are, as said throughout three different threads, psi-vulnerable.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
But is it realistically as clear cut as "Emma will mindwipe them, done"? I don't think so.There was another thread with "bloodlust" turned on and everyone was ready to accept that if Sue protected them all, Jonny would go nova for the win. So your opinion can't be that conclusive.
-AC
Given that it's Emma's only offensive power, I have trouble seeing why it would go any differently. I mean, it just wouldn't be logical for Emma to think, "I'm a telepath. They're vulnerable to telepathy. So I think I'll...run up to Ben and punch him".
With bloodlust turned on, I don't really see a different outcome. In fact, it's even slower, because now the FF are waiting for TWO actions. Sue shielding them, then Johnny supernoving everybody. In that amount of time, Emma would have made Sue shield the X-men and made Johnny supernova the FF.
This fight would be more fair if there weren't a telepath involved, which is why I was trying to steer everybody to the other psi-free thread, but then we got into that whole prep debate instead.