Fantastic Four vs. these non-psionic X-men!

Since the FF are unfairly put up against X-men who can turn their minds off and they're not given any toys to play with, let's even the odds a bit, shall we?

The Fantastic Four vs.

Colossus
Storm
Polaris
Iceman

Here's the stipulation, to be even fair:

The Fantastic Four have one hour of prep to create anything they've already created in an hour. The X-men also have an hour of prep to pull up anything they already have in their mansion.

The FF can't use something they already have, they can only rebuild stuff that it took them an hour or less to build last time

The X-men, on the other hand, can't build anything new and can't consult Forge, but they can take any device they already have in their mansion....except Cerebro/a

Now let's have some fun.

This should be a good fight, but I am leaning towards the X-Men.

Iceman is on there, xmen, definitely.

sue shields the ff and johnny goes nova. the end.

Methinks I may have to make another FF vs. X-men thread without psionics AND without Iceman by the time all is said and done, heh heh....

Why do people keep using CIS tactics?

Demi, USE iceman, but make it bloodlust, so they can go "nova".

Originally posted by leonidas
sue shields the ff and johnny goes nova. the end.

Hmm. I picked Polaris for just such an eventuality.

yeah, polaris creates a shield and protects them all, then reverses the blood-flow in everybody

This is light stuff so far, kids. It'll get interesting when the major FF supporters get here and start making use of the prep time and inventions.

Iceman and Human Torch elementaly cancel eachother out..

Collusus and Thing are evenly matched..

I have no idea who Polaris is, but I'm sure Storm could take Mr. Fantastic and Invisible Woman without much effort..

I hate muties.. Exsept for Ultimate Dazzler, she looks like Bran-Bran and makes me think happy thoughts..

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With regards to Ice-Man/Torch, it's whoever lands first. Ice-Man freezing Torch's veins won't deal with the other X-Men or whatever Reed has to neutralise him, seeing as he's allowed to.

If Torch goes nova, he will hit everyone with it. So it's a question of max power. Colossus can't withstand the heat Torch could put out, so he'd melt or something. It's hard to say what would happen given that we can't know who would attack who, how, when, why etc.

Given powers, given the fact that apparantly bloodlust (stupid rule) is on, I'm going with the F4 due to the fact that Reed has the chance to research and build anything that could neutralise specific members, plus Jonny's nova, Sue's power etc. Reed could easily give Storm a claustrophobia attack, another possibility.

-AC

So what do they make in an hour?

It takes a while for Torch to go nova. Ive never seen him do it instantly, unless someone knows otherwise. Iceman and Polaris could beat the team via blood manipulation.Colossus and Thing have a long battle, but current Colossus may be able to pull off a victory. After Iceman beats Torch, he freezes Reed. Or maybe he freezes Reed first, then goes for Torch.

X-men win imo.

You brought up some good points Alpha.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
With regards to Ice-Man/Torch, it's whoever lands first. Ice-Man freezing Torch's veins won't deal with the other X-Men or whatever Reed has to neutralise him, seeing as he's allowed to.

If Torch goes nova, he will hit everyone with it. So it's a question of max power. Colossus can't withstand the heat Torch could put out, so he'd melt or something. It's hard to say what would happen given that we can't know who would attack who, how, when, why etc.

Given powers, given the fact that apparantly bloodlust (stupid rule) is on, I'm going with the F4 due to the fact that Reed has the chance to research and build anything that could neutralise specific members, plus Jonny's nova, Sue's power etc. Reed could easily give Storm a claustrophobia attack, another possibility.

-AC

A reasonable strategem. But remember, you're limited to inventions that have already been invented by the FF. So what previous inventions has Reed developed that he could employ against the X-men that might take advantage of things like, for example, Storm's claustrophobia?

Originally posted by Creshosk
So what do they make in an hour?

I dunno, shall I ask Reed?

Jrod, why does it take time for Torch to go nova but somehow Polaris has the ability to instantly manipulate blood? It doesn't take time for Torch to go nova. There have been times when he has, times when he hasn't.

-AC

Originally posted by demigawd
A reasonable strategem. But remember, you're limited to inventions that have already been invented by the FF. So what previous inventions has Reed developed that he could employ against the X-men that might take advantage of things like, for example, Storm's claustrophobia?

Reed doesn't need inventions for that. I don't mentally note all the gizmo's Reed could come up with.

I do think it's a bit random to give him prep time but not allow him to prep.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I dunno, shall I ask Reed?

Jrod, why does it take time for Torch to go nova but somehow Polaris has the ability to instantly manipulate blood? It doesn't take time for Torch to go nova. There have been times when he has, times when he hasn't.

-AC

Polaris or Iceman manipulation the blood has been done instatly. Polaris once knocked out most of the people in the X-Mansion in an instant.

When has Torch ever gone nova instantly? Without actually having to rapidly rise his temperature?

Originally posted by jrodslam
When has Torch ever gone nova instantly? Without actually having to rapidly rise his temperature?

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When did I say it's instant? I said it doesn't take time. As in, alot of. He can do it fast by, as you said, rapidly raising his temp.

-AC