Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
....................When did I say it's instant? I said it doesn't take time. As in, alot of. He can do it fast by, as you said, rapidly raising his temp.
-AC
Lol ok. When you said that "it doesnt take time for Torch to go nova", i assumed you were saying that he could do it instantly. My bad.
What Iceman and Polaris could do to the blood is pretty instant.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Reed doesn't need inventions for that. I don't mentally note all the gizmo's Reed could come up with.I do think it's a bit random to give him prep time but not allow him to prep.
-AC
He has prep time. But I put a restriction on things they've already build quickly to prevent Batmanitis from setting in. You know, "Oh, he could just build an anti-non-psionic-X-men ray", which sort of destroys the point of an actual debate, because then you're just limited to your personal imagination.
Originally posted by demigawdBatmantis:
He has prep time. But I put a restriction on things they've already build quickly to prevent Batmanitis from setting in. You know, "Oh, he could just build an anti-non-psionic-X-men ray", which sort of destroys the point of an actual debate, because then you're just limited to your personal imagination.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
[QUOTE=4875618]Originally posted by Creshosk
[B]So what do they make in an hour?
And this is why people don't make threads with open prep time. Because then it's easy to simply say, "He's *insert favorite character here*! He'll think of SOMETHING! He always does!".
Because, frankly, how do you counter something like "He'll think of something!"?
That's why you have to stick to the stips. Only inventions they've invented quickly before. It's the only way to be fair and promote an actual debate.
Originally posted by demigawd
Because, frankly, how do you counter something like "He'll think of something!"?
*Insert opponent here* Will spend the prep time screwing *Insert prep user here*'s wife/daughter/sister/brother/etc while *Insert opponent here* watches in dismay, only to find their prep time gone and themselves unprepared.
Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
Other character will think of something else?
Which, of course, takes everything to the realm of the ridiculously obscure.
FF supporter: He's Reed! He made Galactus flee with prep! He'll think of something! He always does!
XM supporter: No way! The X-men will think of something to stop him!
See how well that doesn't work?
Originally posted by demigawd
Which, of course, takes everything to the realm of the ridiculously obscure.FF supporter: He's Reed! He made Galactus flee with prep! He'll think of something! He always does!
XM supporter: No way! The X-men will think of something to stop him!
See how well that doesn't work?
Yes, it was a joke...
Originally posted by demigawdWhich is why I hate the prep rule, its ridiculous.
And this is why people don't make threads with open prep time. Because then it's easy to simply say, "He's *insert favorite character here*! He'll think of SOMETHING! He always does!".Because, frankly, how do you counter something like "He'll think of something!"?
That's why you have to stick to the stips. Only inventions they've invented quickly before. It's the only way to be fair and promote an actual debate.
No offence, but you can't give Reed prep time, then restrict it.
Realistically if you said to Reed, "Oi mate, you're fighting the X-Men soon. Prep up" he would come with something to win wouldn't he? Being the smartest man on Earth and all that.
So to say he's allowed prep, but not to prep, is a bit ridiculous. I agree with the whole nonsense of "He's Reed!", but bearing in mind that he IS Reed Richards and WITH prep he more than likely could do something like that. Not because of his name, but ability.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriWhy not? it's his thread.
No offence, but you can't give Reed prep time, then restrict it.
Originally posted by Tha C-MasterSo, what would he make?
Realistically if you said to Reed, "Oi mate, you're fighting the X-Men soon. Prep up" he would come with something to win wouldn't he? Being the smartest man on Earth and all that.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master😆
I agree with the whole nonsense of "He's Reed!", but bearing in mind that he IS Reed ...
Originally posted by Creshosk
Why not? it's his thread.
I'm not telling him he literally is incapable of doing it, saying that logically you cannot.
Originally posted by Creshosk
So, what would he make?
I'll answer that with another question. If you give him prep, it's more or less guaranteed he'll make something to aid him isn't it? Yes. So why do the weapon specs make any difference? I don't know what he'd specifically make, that would be me being overly presumptuous. I'm just saying it's a near definate that he would make SOMETHING, given prep time.
Originally posted by Creshosk
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What's funny? If you understood the point I made and didn't cut off the rest of the sentence you might have had something to go by. My point was that it's stupid to say he'd win because of his name. He's Reed Richards, that's not why he'd win. He'd win because of what being Reed Richards means. Stop misinterpreting.
Don't alter my quotes for your purposes.
-AC
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
It isn't fair, because its impossible to counter.
Although in general that's the manner in which you'd win a debate.
Fair point though. The problem with characters like Reed and Batman is that they do usually find a way, be that what it may. Makes it hard to debate for or against, in a way.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I think reed should prep away, but its the fact that there should be certain parameters when debating.
Like in batman vs iceman, "he's batman, he'll find a way!"
It isn't fair, because its impossible to counter.
Most of the time to get things like this started we involve some sort of plot device to force them to fight anyway.
Usually a powerful being sets up the parameters. Usually with a threat to get them to cooperate.