Emma Frost vs. Sue Richards (mental assault).

Emma wins. She is too fast for Sue.

based on....????

In my opinion Emma looks like soft core amature next Sue.

Sue might be the much more versatile and powerful women on the physical level, but since she has to construct and project and Emma just has to project, i gave this to the latter.

Im not going to base my opinion on which one has more steps involved, especially when Sue is more than a veteran, she's much more accustomed to battle and taking the initiative. And Sue doesnt necessarily project her powers...thats only if she wants a field to move from her position. Sue's powers operate at the speed of thought. Thats one thing I agree about X4, sue did take out Emma first.

What if Sue attacks Emma's brain as well? If Sue makes a construct in a particular location then it is not projected. Jus as if she makes an object invisible...a field of invisibility doesnt travel from her body, its instantaneous.

Originally posted by Wynndar
Im not going to base my opinion on which one has more steps involved, especially when Sue is more than a veteran, she's much more accustomed to battle and taking the initiative. And Sue doesnt necessarily project her powers...thats only if she wants a field to move from her position. Sue's powers operate at the speed of thought. Thats one thing I agree about X4, sue did take out Emma first.

What if Sue attacks Emma's brain as well? If Sue makes a construct in a particular location then it is not projected. Jus as if she makes an object invisible...a field of invisibility doesnt travel from her body, its instantaneous.

Especially with the presence of the plot device casts doubt upon the speed thing. Particularly with there being an impact.

Sue still has to visualize the shape of the invisible bubble in Emma's mind, Round? Trianglur prism? flat blade?

Still not shown as fast, further more doubtful that its true what she said. False bravado.

Originally posted by Wynndar
Im not going to base my opinion on which one has more steps involved, especially when Sue is more than a veteran, she's much more accustomed to battle and taking the initiative. And Sue doesnt necessarily project her powers...thats only if she wants a field to move from her position. Sue's powers operate at the speed of thought. Thats one thing I agree about X4, sue did take out Emma first.

What if Sue attacks Emma's brain as well? If Sue makes a construct in a particular location then it is not projected. Jus as if she makes an object invisible...a field of invisibility doesnt travel from her body, its instantaneous.

All I'm trying to say is that I think that Emma can instantly shut down her brain before IW can do anything.

And, hypothetically, if IW was to begin suffocating or doing something to Emma with a forcefield, as soon as she dies from her brain being shut down, whatever forcefield that is attacking Emma will fade away. Unless you're going to tell me that IW's forcefields have their own entity that keeps them forcefielding long after IW has left.

Originally posted by Wynndar
Im not going to base my opinion on which one has more steps involved, especially when Sue is more than a veteran, she's much more accustomed to battle and taking the initiative. And Sue doesnt necessarily project her powers...thats only if she wants a field to move from her position. Sue's powers operate at the speed of thought. Thats one thing I agree about X4, sue did take out Emma first.

What if Sue attacks Emma's brain as well? If Sue makes a construct in a particular location then it is not projected. Jus as if she makes an object invisible...a field of invisibility doesnt travel from her body, its instantaneous.

Btw...using X4 as a reference is not the best step to support your point of view. Emma CLEARLY warned Sue about what she was going to do to her, so...

Ummm...I dont see how that gives u an advantage...against a TELEPATH!

But ur right, X4 was stupid and not in continuity.

Sue will never be as fast as a telepath. All a telepath has to do is allow his power to dominate and he/she will know everything about you, what you will do, your limits.
He/she may not know the future but he'll know your past.
I doubt Sue's that fast.

Sue's powers operate at the speed of thought just like a telepath's. Her powers are not TK but a resonance from hyperspace. Like I mentioned before, she can project her fields from her body or create the field the space she chooses. She has used her powers from long distance or in places she couldnt see.

Not as long distance as the past i take it

Sorry not fair. I guess a telepath can't think into the past either

Originally posted by Wynndar
Ummm...I dont see how that gives u an advantage...against a TELEPATH!

Originally posted by Wynndar
Sue's powers operate at the speed of thought just like a telepath's.

Originally posted by wannabe
Given the fact that NO telepath is reading everyones thoughts at ALL times, especially not those of allies, your question lacks a little of your usual wit. 🙁

Despite them constantly saying that they focus to keep other peoples thoughts out, so that they don't go insane.

But who cares right? Sue's false bravado should be all that's needed to prove it, even if it wasn't in continutiy.

😆

"It's not-canon, but I'm still going to use it to prove the parts of my argument that help me."

Sue mentally generates a psionic field of invisible force which derives from hyperspace. Either way she has to mentally manipulate this invisible force regardless of whether its a simple shape or relatively complex and then she has to target emma. Emma thinks Sues brain to shut down. Simple as.

Sues power may operate psionically however she is working with an external energy source and one she must manipulate and direct. More steps than Emma. In a quickfire draw Emma wins.

i agree, Emma just thinks, Sue does have to construct and aim

Emma's telepathy has been shown to bypass sue's sheild in X4 miniseries (which, by the way, is canon). And diamond form has survived destruction of Genosha, and being punched across town by a sentinel.

Wow this is an old thread.