Emma Frost vs. Sue Richards (mental assault).

Started by xmarksthespot10 pages

Which is why latency after initial thought is irrelevant and for all intents and purposes zero when it comes to telepathy. Thought and action occur simultaneously. Cause and effect are one.

Originally posted by demigawd
It's not just force, it's like anything else she produces. She still has to think, "make invisible object yay high, project at yay speed". two extra steps in this case, plus the time it actually takes to project at yay speed.

Emma: Sue. Off.

The difference between you and I is that you seem to have some scientifically measured back up as to how fast Sue reacts.

That, or you're assuming that these steps are the deciding factor if they even exist.

But I'm sure it's the former.

X: Cause isn't one with effect. Cause is event, effect if result.

-AC

Wordplay again?
Cause: A basis for an action or response i.e. thought producing mindblast or thoughts creating invisible battering ram.
Effect: Something brought about by a cause or agent i.e. mindblast or striking opponent with invisible battering ram.
Cause and effect occur simultaneously for Emma they do not for Sue because there are additional steps in between.

Originally posted by demigawd
Character thinks something
Emma: Oh, that's disgusting!
Character: Stay out of my thoughts!
Emma: I was, but you were positively screaming it!
I beleive it was either Banshee or Iceman. . .

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Wordplay again?
Cause: A basis for an action or response i.e. thought producing mindblast or thoughts creating invisible battering ram.
Effect: Something brought about by a cause or agent i.e. mindblast or striking opponent with invisible battering ram.
Cause and effect occur simultaneously for Emma they do not for Sue because there are additional steps in between.

Yes so you described the nature of telepathy.

Go on.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Yes so you described the nature of telepathy.

And in doing so explained why it is faster than IW's attack - what more is there to go on about?

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
And in doing so explained why it is faster than IW's attack - what more is there to go on about?

The fact that the cause and effect gap between Sue and Emma is there, doesn't mean it will be a deciding factor.

It's milliseconds, possibly less.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
The fact that the cause and effect gap between Sue and Emma is there, doesn't mean it will be a deciding factor.
It's milliseconds, possibly less.
-AC

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
If emma and sue are facing 10 feet away from each other, what attack will come first in your opinion. Sue's field, or emma's mindwipe/blast.
Discuss and debate... 😮‍💨

So, we're going by miliseconds now?

Seriously?

It's as close to equal as possible....the only difference is IW has shown some slight resistance to mental attacks but Emma hasn't shown any resistance to physical attacks. (unless she's in diamond form.)

So, adding that and the picosecond it takes for the mental assault to take hold and the half picosecond for the mental pain to register and the milisecond for.....blah blah blah blah....EQUAL.

Originally posted by long pig
So, we're going by miliseconds now?
Seriously?
It's as close to equal as possible....the only difference is IW has shown some slight resistance to mental attacks but Emma hasn't shown any resistance to physical attacks. (unless she's in diamond form.)

Earlier on it was argued that all the FF were telepathically immune. Then resistant. Then it was whittled down to just Sue being resistant. Could I know the context of Sue's telepathic resistance and whether it involved any devices, plot or otherwise.

The first thing that comes to my mind was Pheonix scanning for the FF and Sue was able to keep herself undedected.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
The fact that the cause and effect gap between Sue and Emma is there, doesn't mean it will be a deciding factor.

It's milliseconds, possibly less.

-AC

I wholeheartedly agree. The gap between cause and effect is only a matter of milliseconds, because it's so minute. So we're on the same page with that.

But when it comes to battles at the speed of thought, miliseconds mean everything. It's the difference between victory for Emma and defeat for Sue. Milliseconds.

Originally posted by long pig
The first thing that comes to my mind was Pheonix scanning for the FF and Sue was able to keep herself undedected.

When?

Originally posted by demigawd
When?

**** if I know.

😄

i voted for sue richards...she was my fav in the cartoons and well... i htink her powers are pretty neat!

So have we reached that milliseconds is all it takes, and that one millisecond calls the fight?

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
So have we reached that milliseconds is all it takes, and that one millisecond calls the fight?
I would think so.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot

Earlier on it was argued that all the FF were telepathically immune. Then resistant. Then it was whittled down to just Sue being resistant. Could I know the context of Sue's telepathic resistance and whether it involved any devices, plot or otherwise.
wicked scene! 😈

Originally posted by Creshosk
Polls are ad populem arguments. They are the opinions of the majority, which doesn't translate to fact.
remember that emma isn't that popular..

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
remember that emma isn't that popular..
Hmm. . . While you have a point, mine still stands.