Originally posted by Tha C-MasterNo different than saying that Hulk not being able to beat Wolverine is PIS and not subject to frequency, than Firelord being beaten by Spiderman is PIS. . .
Like I said, the dye...This isn't a point, you are tangeting your ass off.
Spiderman beating Firelord is SVFL
Wolverine not being knocked out by Hulk is SVFL
Firelord being knocked out by SM is PIS
Hulk not knocking out Wolverine is PIS.
PIS and SVSFL are two sides of the same coin. . . both are subject to frequency then.
not at all...but you have to consider that one of his abilities isn't the capability to be able to KO logan in a fight on average... since going by his abilities means you have to have some consistent feats right? or at the very least have a a group of feats that set the bar?
but you just said it yourself... just because a beats b doesn't mean a beats c.....so direct comparison's are all we got.
Originally posted by Creshosk
No different than saying that Hulk not being able to beat Wolverine is PIS and not subject to frequency, than Firelord being beaten by Spiderman is PIS. . .Spiderman beating Firelord is SVFL
Wolverine not being knocked out by Hulk is SVFLFirelord being knocked out by SM is PIS
Hulk not knocking out Wolverine is PIS.PIS and SVSFL are two sides of the same coin. . . both are subject to frequency then.
I just said that, the whole scene is invalid because of it, for BOTH characters.
Like the dye...
Originally posted by CreshoskPIS is not subject to frequency. How many times does a Flash comic last more than three panels Cresh?
No different than saying that Hulk not being able to beat Wolverine is PIS and not subject to frequency, than Firelord being beaten by Spiderman is PIS. . .Spiderman beating Firelord is SVFL
Wolverine not being knocked out by Hulk is SVFLFirelord being knocked out by SM is PIS
Hulk not knocking out Wolverine is PIS.PIS and SVSFL are two sides of the same coin. . . both are subject to frequency then.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
The frequency of the event means it no longer falls under the jurisdiction of SvFL. However PIS still applies no matter how often PIS occurs. Live with it.
How does that even make sense? It doesn't matter how often a character is shown to do some thing it is still PIS. How do we then know that the everything the Hulk does isn't PIS? Because it is written down in some half assed, two bit Marvel Handbook written by some joker who doesn't have a clue? Handbooks out weigh the comics in your opinion then? I have a Marvel over power card that says Sabretooth is a better fighter then Captain America... must be true.
Originally posted by jinzin
not at all...but you have to consider that one of his abilities isn't the capability to be able to KO logan in a fight on average... since going by his abilities means you have to have some consistent feats right? or at the very least have a a group of feats that set the bar?
but you just said it yourself... just because a beats b doesn't mean a beats c.....so direct comparison's are all we got.
Is there a "hulk cannot beat wolverine ability?"
You already said hulk could dummy...
Originally posted by srankmissingninWhat you don't seem to understand, or rather not except is that the argument between your and I is not about "real world physics" vs "comic book physics" But it is instead based on the necessity of using some sort of "logical parameters" when debating.
How does that even make sense? It doesn't matter how often a character is shown to do some thing it is still PIS. How do we then know that the everything the Hulk does isn't PIS? Because it is written down in some half assed, two bit Marvel Handbook written by some joker who doesn't have a clue? Handbooks out weigh the comics in your opinion then? I have a Marvel over power card that says Sabretooth is a better fighter then Captain America... must be true.
As Farseer pointed out, comic books are chalk full of inconsistancies and plot devices, so determining outcomes of battles on a character's "history" alone does not make make for a logical style of argumentation. Instead, it creates a circular-illogical one. Using a character's stats helps one to determine which scenarios should be deemed credible arguments, and which one's should not.
Originally posted by srankmissingninIf Hulk is lowered in comparison to his others showings it is PIS. Hulk is lowered in comparison to his other showings many times. Each time it is still PIS.
How does that even make sense? It doesn't matter how often a character is shown to do some thing it is still PIS. How do we then know that the everything the Hulk does isn't PIS? Because it is written down in some half assed, two bit Marvel Handbook written by some joker who doesn't have a clue? Handbooks out weigh the comics in your opinion then? I have a Marvel over power card that says Sabretooth is a better fighter then Captain America... must be true.