Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Logan can lose his organs, and die easier than it seems, he takes damage within a human rate.Now if storm can fly, she can.
You are saying the same thing as I, it takes alot, but you have showings that haven't shown it done.
You also can't GAUGe the hits being delivered, just because a class 100 hit them, doesn't mean its a class 100 blow, in fact it rarely does...
It seems we agree.
Now, let's get nekkid and run backwards in a corn field 😱
~wickerman~
Originally posted by Creshosk
You're not saying that Hulk pulls his punches again are you?
Hulk that destroyed an asteroid, the hulk that bent adamantium.
I've heard of loving wolverine, but goodness.
Do you know comics have to look good?
Hulk has hit spiderman too, he's still around, point nullified...
I said it in Thing/Sabretooth line, I'll say it again: Sabretooth is the most deserving Marvel character of being gagged and sodomized; sick of his drooling "Tasty, Bub" face. 😈
Colossus knocks him down, kneels on his chest and proceeds to punch him repeatedly for a half-hour, until he is wet chunks on the floorboards!
He can do it - he is MADE OF RAGE!!! ✅
Originally posted by roughrider😄
I said it in Thing/Sabretooth line, I'll say it again: Sabretooth is the most deserving Marvel character of being gagged and sodomized; sick of his drooling "Tasty, Bub" face. 😈
Colossus knocks him down, kneels on his chest and proceeds to punch him repeatedly for a half-hour, until he is wet chunks on the floorboards!He can do it - he is MADE OF RAGE!!! ✅
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Hulk that destroyed an asteroid, the hulk that bent adamantium.I've heard of loving wolverine, but goodness.
Do you know comics have to look good?
Hulk has hit spiderman too, he's still around, point nullified...
So Savage Hulk, Mr "HULK SMASH!" pulls his punches?
Or does he start off weaker and get stronger as he gets angrier, and the times when Spiderman and Wolverine have been hit was before he got angrier?
Adamantium alloy actually.
Originally posted by Creshosk
So Savage Hulk, Mr "HULK SMASH!" pulls his punches?Or does he start off weaker and get stronger as he gets angrier, and the times when Spiderman and Wolverine have been hit was before he got angrier?
Adamantium alloy actually.
Cap broke his grip I might add...
Daredevil too, mere humans...
What about the cosmic cube, hulk did that...
My point is they don't ALWAYS hit their hardest, none of them, or there would be no comic.
Originally posted by Tha C-MasterYeah, hulk gets stronger as he gets angrier. He doesn't start off at omnipotent levels of strength.
Cap broke his grip I might add...Daredevil too, mere humans...
What about the cosmic cube, hulk did that...
My point is they don't ALWAYS hit their hardest, none of them, or there would be no comic.
Originally posted by Creshosk
Yeah, hulk gets stronger as he gets angrier. He doesn't start off at omnipotent levels of strength.
Spiderman can fatally injure dd with one punch, cap isn't strong enough to break hulk's grip, who I remember starts at 70 tonnes.(tons) edit...
Comic look goodness is there, and we must take it out for everyone. Its all I'm trying to say, I'm not saying colossus can do it, I'm saying it can be done...
Originally posted by Tha C-MasterSo you're using events of PIS to try and discredit something that happens the majority of the time for another character?
Spiderman can fatally injure dd with one punch, cap isn't strong enough to break hulk's grip, who I remember starts at 70 tonnes.(tons) edit...Comic look goodness is there, and we must take it out for everyone. Its all I'm trying to say, I'm not saying colossus can do it, I'm saying it can be done...
Using different feats from what was originally inferred? 😕
uggggh 🙄
lets just leave it at this...
COMIC BOOK LOGIC >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>real world logic (in a comic book)
a guy already tried to disconnect wolverine's bones from their sockets..it didn't work. it's not working here..nuff said...really..
i get that his skeleton doens't make sense..and that's why it's in a comic book, not some non-fiction form of literature...
Originally posted by Creshosk
So you're using events of PIS to try and discredit something that happens the majority of the time for another character?Using different feats from what was originally inferred? 😕
How is that PIS?
Listen you are saying hulk never does this or that, but whenever two heroes/icons fight, it happens to make the comic look good.
Many other guys have fought hulk besides wolverine ( who he shouldn't be cutting by the way), and have been hit and survived.
Its pis for all of them, just like angry superman punching batman, there has to be logic at this point....
Originally posted by jinzin
uggggh 🙄lets just leave it at this...
COMIC BOOK LOGIC >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>real world logic (in a comic book)a guy already tried to disconnect wolverine's bones from their sockets..it didn't work. it's not working here..nuff said...really..
i get that his skeleton doens't make sense..and that's why it's in a comic book, not some non-fiction form of literature...
You still don't know what logic is do you?
You sit here and try to use what supports you all the time...
Comic book logic dictates that spiderman beat firelord, wolverine beat lobo, elecktra is fiercer than wolverine, spiderman can beat wolverine and break his neck, spiderman can beat the xmen, AND the fantastic four.
It also says that hulk can lift 150 billion tons of weight in pure calm, that wolverine can fall from a cup of tea, that galactus can't beat phoenix(lol).
Please be objective, and put stuff together, AND NOT WHEN ITS ALWAYS IN YOUR ADVANTAGE.
Nice discussion cresh, I must leave for now...
Originally posted by Tha C-MasterCap breaking his grip?
How is that PIS?
Cap broke his grip, Hulk starts at 70 tons . . . You tell me.
Originally posted by Tha C-MasterIncluding before they were icons? Hmm . . .
Listen you are saying hulk never does this or that, but whenever two heroes/icons fight, it happens to make the comic look good.
Originally posted by Tha C-MasterI still don't see the whole "he shouldn't be cutting" thing. Razor sharp things can cut with little to no effort. Focused to a point of an nigh unbreakable material and you need little to no strength. Razor sharp adamantium can cut through steel and titanium like a hot knife through butter. . . Remember?
Many other guys have fought hulk besides wolverine ( who he shouldn't be cutting by the way), and have been hit and survived.
Originally posted by Tha C-MasterWolverine's is PIS? Even though that's what happens the majority of the time? 😬
Its pis for all of them, just like angry superman punching batman, there has to be logic at this point....
Originally posted by Tha C-MasterI explained above what logic was and still you use this attack on people that disagree with you?
You still don't know what logic is do you?
Originally posted by Tha C-MasterAnd what supports you, as I use what supports me. as anyone uses what supports them in a debate.
You sit here and try to use what supports you all the time...
Originally posted by Tha C-MasterThat's why as Wickerman said, real world physics have little (not no) place in comic book debates. Actually Spiderman didn't beat the X-Men back then either. He beat the X-men (minus Xavier) who were holding back. . .
Comic book logic dictates that spiderman beat firelord, wolverine beat lobo, elecktra is fiercer than wolverine, spiderman can beat wolverine and break his neck, spiderman can beat the xmen, AND the fantastic four.
Originally posted by Tha C-MasterPoisoned tea. . .
It also says that hulk can lift 150 billion tons of weight in pure calm, that wolverine can fall from a cup of tea, that galactus can't beat phoenix(lol).
Originally posted by Tha C-MasterBut everyone does that. . . everyone.
Please be objective, and put stuff together, AND NOT WHEN ITS ALWAYS IN YOUR ADVANTAGE.
Originally posted by Tha C-MasterTake care.
Nice discussion cresh, I must leave for now...
Originally posted by Creshosk
Wolverine's is PIS? Even though that's what happens the majority of the time? 😬
I think he means that since he does things outside his abilities, that's PIS. His abilities however should be based on feats. There's a vicious circle in there of whether by applying PIS consistently it no longer becomes PIS and just fact, or not.
~wickerman~
Originally posted by Wickerman
I think he means that since he does things outside his abilities, that's PIS. His abilities however should be based on feats. There's a vicious circle in there of whether by applying PIS consistently it no longer becomes PIS and just fact, or not.~wickerman~
welcome to the circular argument that is cordera...enjoy your stay...you'll being going in circles for a while.
Originally posted by Creshosk
Cap breaking his grip?Cap broke his grip, Hulk starts at 70 tons . . . You tell me.
Including before they were icons? Hmm . . .
I still don't see the whole "he shouldn't be cutting" thing. Razor sharp things can cut with little to no effort. Focused to a point of an nigh unbreakable material and you need little to no strength. Razor sharp adamantium can cut through steel and titanium like a hot knife through butter. . . Remember?
Wolverine's is PIS? Even though that's what happens the majority of the time? 😬
Take a really sharp kitchen knife and cut a can, now pretend that can is metal from top to bottom.
You need strength and leverage to cut.
Wolverine taking his blows are ps nonetheless, and not falling out...
Originally posted by Wickerman
I think he means that since he does things outside his abilities, that's PIS. His abilities however should be based on feats. There's a vicious circle in there of whether by applying PIS consistently it no longer becomes PIS and just fact, or not.~wickerman~
THats a point I was trying to make with the whole "Wolverine Logic" thing. By his power's definition, he shouldnt be able to do all of the feats that he has done. So you venture into a grey area with him. Sometimes he heals instantly, some times he doesnt. He cant have his joints dislocated, dont know why. (They probably could fix it in one sentance in the comic book if they wanted) just what is his strength level, etc etc. I can look at that and say "Thats just Wolvie fan fueled Marvel stupidity"someone else says "Thats how Wolvie rolls, he's that good, he does this all the time, it HAS to be true"
Originally posted by jinzin
welcome to the circular argument that is cordera...enjoy your stay...you'll being going in circles for a while.
No personal attacks man nono
I myself think it's a nasty crap-ass debate, and to tell you the truth, it gives me headaches. Soooo.......i would normally avoid wolverine/sabertooth threads, seeing as how they involve a certain amount of brain processing, and i usually come in this forum quite tired.
~wickerman~