Lightsaber Styles speculation.

Hey ever wonder if perhaps the Sith had their own lightsaber styles that were unlike the Jedi styles? Yes, I already know about Hord.

Lord Hoth had his own style 😄

I believe Maul's was a variation of form 7, though I don't have dantheman around anymore to confirm.

yes Maul's was a variation of form VII

oh and sorry about the double post but the sith also used the form of Dun Moch which was specific to them. It was not specifically a lightsaber combat, but it was used to provoke an opponent into attack and make them loose their temper and become unfocused, Vader uses this in ESB and RotJ.

Dooku also used it against Anakin, but it seems to me like Dun Moch does more damage than good. Luke became really powerful when he fell for a minute.

ALso, does anyone have a comprehensive list of which Jedi uses which forms? Official as possible please.

Well, let's see:

Shii-Cho: Kit Fisto and either Adi Gaia or Allie Strass whats herface, I believe.

Makashi: Dooku

Soresu: Luminara, Obi-Wan, Bariss

Ataru: Obi-Wan, Qui Gon, Yoda, possibly Anakin

Shien: Anakin, Luke

Niman: Every jedi on Geonosis who died

Juyo/Vaapad: Mace, Sora, Depa

Thanks.

No problem. As for Sidious, he is held to be either a varient of Ataru or possibly some corrupt form of Niman.

I had heard a lot of speculation that he had mastered Niman to the highest degree of anyone alive at that time. If you think about it, spending five hundred years on Niman would make you able to do just about anything. Sidious didn't have quite that long to master it, but you get my drift.

Sidious - in my opinion - seemed to have a style that worked better against multiple opponents. He kept up with Mace and Yoda, but did not own them as easily and as swiftly (or at all for that matter) as he did with the other Jedi. So. Either this is based on how much more skilled Yoda and Mace are than the other Jedi Masters - or Sidious's style was better against multiple opponents.

Not to mention that he used several flips and acrobatic moves. Perhaps it is a combination of two or more styles? Odd how Nick Gillard stated that Sidious was supposed to possess more saber ability than anyone we've seen.

I've seen quotes where Gillard mentions that "Sidious will do things with a blade that we've never seen done before." And "You cannot beat Sidious as he always turns a weakness into an advantage."

I wish they focused more on his Force powers than saber skills - as they didn't do a good job of either in Revenge of the Sith. It's hinted that he's powerful with them - but I dunno. ROTS Sidious duels just was...blah...

The flips can be accounted for if he had a high mastery of Niman.

I'm sure different people had different methods.

Exar Kun invented Sokan, or so I've read, sub-form of Soresu.

Jar'Kai, the method of using two lightsabers, was created by a Jedi and another Jedi who later went Sith.

Maul used Juyo and was pretty damned good at it, Dooku was a master of Makashi, and Sidious practiced Niman. Vader used Djem So.

I read those same things, DS... But they didn't stack up in the movie, which was kinda piss poor. I think NG, a spotlight hog, was living it up and feeding the hype before the movie came out, too.

Now, Sidious' lightsaber style is actually pretty simple. Yes, he did do a couple of flips and spins, certainly. He might have Ataru in it. My thinking is, it's either Niman and it's Niman that doesn't suck because Sidious is so strong in the Force, or it's actually Shii-Cho with Ataru mixed in. that's what I'm getting from the movie battles.

I'd go with a mastered version of Niman.

Originally posted by Captain REX
I'm sure different people had different methods.

Exar Kun invented Sokan, or so I've read, sub-form of Soresu.

Jar'Kai, the method of using two lightsabers, was created by a Jedi and another Jedi who later went Sith.

Maul used Juyo and was pretty damned good at it, Dooku was a master of Makashi, and Sidious practiced Niman. Vader used Djem So.

I have heard that Exar used Makashi.

If a subform of Soresu enables you to kill a lightsaber grandmaster within a few seconds, it's pretty damn good.

After I saw ROTS I came out thinking that Sidious's lightsaber form was very snake like... quick strikes and stabs... and he used his terrain to an extent... that made me think Sokan initially. After pondering it however I think Niman is correct, for two reasons. Firstly, he seems to change style when he fights, especially when he faced Mace Windu. Secondly, it makes more sense to me for Palpatine to be adept at a number of forms instead of focusing specifically on one.

Just my two cents.

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Originally posted by Illustrious
If a subform of Soresu enables you to kill a lightsaber grandmaster within a few seconds, it's pretty damn good.

I think that's just Exar Kun kicking ass, not his form. 😛

Does Exar Kun pull of anything that is very Dooku-like, Sorgo? I wouldn't know.

I agree, ObiWan1982.

Originally posted by Captain REX
I'd go with a mastered version of Niman.

The problem with mastering Niman is that it literally means you mastered every fighting style save for Juyo and Makashi. If this was the case, Sidious should have been the best damn duellist in the series, over a hundred years old, and pretty much shamed himself by being bested at all. No, I think NG made some fekked up Form XX and it never found its way into any kind of material. After all, the seven forms were made just after AOTC. They haven't been upgraded since.