okey so now im here again...long time since i posted in this forum last but i would really want to ask someone of a favour...
i am not very familiar with these lightsaber forms but i know a little info of the shi-shu i learned in KOTOR2 it says good to fall back on but i dunno so if someone could tell me or link to a page that gives the info about all the lightsaber forms i would be really happy....
Re: Lightsaber Styles speculation.
Originally posted by Rand al'Thor
Hey ever wonder if perhaps the Sith had their own lightsaber styles that were unlike the Jedi styles? Yes, I already know about Hord.
No...they don't have their own styles and there is a simple reason for that. Before Sadow the Sith had never seen a lightsaber at all so they didn't use any lightsaber form. After Sadow all Sith were former Jedi (Nadd, Kun, Ulic, Revan, Malak...and so on) or they were trained by former Jedi (or used styles that rouge Jedi teached at a certain time).
So basically all Sith were trained in Jedi lightsaber styles in KotoR times as well as after the Ruusan reformation. It is possible that some people used their own forms but they developed them from the actual Jedi forms (so Tulak might have used his own form but it was most likely based on Makashi).
why couldn't Sidious have used Ataru? sure his defences were good, but Yoda's defences were good as well. However, I do not think that he used Ataru (I know, weird thing to say after I just finished saying he could have, but I was just pointing out that he could have), the reason I think this is because of his fight with Mace, he was not flipping around while fighting him, personally I think his form was a mix between, Ataru and Juyo. The reason I think he had some Juyo is because of the way he held his lightsaber just before he attacked (right next to and close to his face) it was the same way Mace held his lightsaber, also in the Star Wars: Revenge of the Sith Game, when you play versus mode and just press the defend buttom, it shows the standard mode of defence for each form (Anakin, or Shien, behind his back; Obi-Wan or Soresu, difectly in front of him; Dooku of Makashi, out to the side etc.) However for Mace it was the same way that Sidious held his lightsaber in the movie, right next to and close to his face, just something to ponder.
This also gives us a clue to Revan's form, he held his lightsaber close to his face as well, meaning he could have used Juyo. Kreia also says that this is one of the best forms that there is, possibly because Revan uses it?
I noticed that too, and it's possible, depending on just how much NG put into the game. Revan does use this same stance, but he uses it before anyone else, meaning it could be anything, or something else entirely new and different. We don't know.
And Sidious -did- do some flipping and evading at one point, but he didn't overkill it.
well Juyo was around in Revan's time, probably some was added since that time (eg. Vaapad) but the basics were there. And I don't know how much input NG had, but my explaination does make sense so I think that it is atleast plausable. Oh and about Sidious bouncing around during the Mace fight, that is why I said a mix of Ataru and Juyo. He combined both forms
Originally posted by Lord Darkstar
well Juyo was around in Revan's time, probably some was added since that time (eg. Vaapad) but the basics were there. And I don't know how much input NG had, but my explaination does make sense so I think that it is atleast plausable. Oh and about Sidious bouncing around during the Mace fight, that is why I said a mix of Ataru and Juyo. He combined both forms
Erm...Juyo features Ataru movements like jumping around. Have a look at Darth Maul in TPM. So there is no need for Sidious to combine the forms. And Sidious is most like an Juyo use - Maul is using that form and it was Sidious who trained him. And it seems to fit his character and position the most since it's the most aggressive of all styles.
Re: Re: Lightsaber Styles speculation.
Originally posted by Nai Fohl
No...they don't have their own styles and there is a simple reason for that. Before Sadow the Sith had never seen a lightsaber at all so they didn't use any lightsaber form. After Sadow all Sith were former Jedi (Nadd, Kun, Ulic, Revan, Malak...and so on) or they were trained by former Jedi (or used styles that rouge Jedi teached at a certain time).So basically all Sith were trained in Jedi lightsaber styles in KotoR times as well as after the Ruusan reformation. It is possible that some people used their own forms but they developed them from the actual Jedi forms (so Tulak might have used his own form but it was most likely based on Makashi).
Ack! I'm idiot I forgot all about this!
Originally posted by Deus Ex
I think his form is unique, honestly. Look at Darkstar's sig, how he holds his two blades... who else fights like that? And the doublebladed saber later on? It's a one handed monstrosity... it's nothing like Maul's saber.
Anyone using two lightsabers uses Jar'Kai, which is usually just the two-handed version of whatever Kun or Skywalker or whoever is a regular practitioner of. Jar'Kai has no real guidelines, it's somewhat baffling, though it is usually placed as a sub-form of Niman.
Exar Kun just doesn't strike me as using Makashi.
Originally posted by Captain REX
Anyone using two lightsabers uses Jar'Kai, which is usually just the two-handed version of whatever Kun or Skywalker or whoever is a regular practitioner of. Jar'Kai has no real guidelines, it's somewhat baffling, though it is usually placed as a sub-form of Niman.Exar Kun just doesn't strike me as using Makashi.
Anyone using two lightsaber uses Jar'Kai!? Pure absurdity!
It's impossible! That's like everyone with a single using Ataru. You don't see everyone flipping around like crazy, do you?
It is possible Kun may have used Makashi. I don't see someone as powerful as Kun using a sub form!
Well, if Jar'Kai is the style of using two sabers at once....
I dunno, I think that everyone would wind up with their own personal saber style; they may gave learned one of the forms but chances are they would have added their own touches to it so that while it may be the same basic form, it would be different than anyone else who learned that form.
Originally posted by Sorgo
Anyone using two lightsaber uses Jar'Kai!? Pure absurdity!It's impossible! That's like everyone with a single using Ataru. You don't see everyone flipping around like crazy, do you?
It is possible Kun may have used Makashi. I don't see someone as powerful as Kun using a sub form!
If you think about it, every form is a subform of Form 1, And Djem So is what Vader uses and it's subform, and you hold him in great regard so, that's contradictary to everything.