I think Beast wins this. It is too close quarter's for Batman to fight effectively. Anything that Batman can throw, Im pretty sure there is some type of training in the Danger room that has done it, so Beast isnt just gonna go down to Gas. If it was so easy to go down to Gas, then the Xmen's arch enemy would be Gas Grenade-man. Sonic and other, more colorful grenades would be more difficult for Beast to deal with, but you must remember, Batman always gets whipped, and then preps his way out of fights. He doesnt have the ability to randomly guess what gadget can take out the Beast. He may have a chance to pull out a single gadget and use it before Beast gets to dangerous range, and thats generous. I dont think Bat's has anything on his belt to "easily win" any fight, otherwise all of Batman's books would be short, since whenever he would find the badguy he would "KO GAS" or "SONIC GRENADE" or some other device that fanboys think can KO instantly.
I read the spoiler to Astonishing X-Men 12 before being able to pick it up at my comic shop. ; ;
Anyway, I could probably be accused of underestimating the Beast.... its just that, in terms of fighting, he hasn't done all too much in his history in terms of mano y mano fights. He got feral during Grant Morrison's run right? Did he exhibit enough prowess during that run or even in the recent Astonishing X-Men run to justify the toppling of Cap AND Bats?
Besides, I don;t think a lot of people would say Spidey beats Bats 8/10 or 7/10 and he's got better stats then beast all round in strength, speed, agility and fighting sense....
Maybe I'm just jaded from the long Fabian Nicieza run that shoved him into the background and when he did end up in a fight, was usually one of the characters that was sprawled on the ground in a 2 page splash. XD
Come now why are you guys ignoring the sonic and the flash bang grenades or batarangs or what has he.....or is using this two objects out of batman's character....or it is not part of his normal arsenal. Come now beast is not going to win if batman uses the sonic device it is just going to bounce off the walls of the danger room thus becoming stronger 🙂 and hit anything in its path and when beast is distracted the danger room is more than capable of putting beast down. Even with the flash bang results are going to be the same which are A DISTRACTED BEAST.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0Well then you'd be wrong in your thinking...
Besides, I don;t think a lot of people would say Spidey beats Bats 8/10 or 7/10
Originally posted by lifeisaglichAnd Beast just stands there passively looking at Batman and saying "Go Batman! Use you gadgets on me!"...
Come now why are you guys ignoring the sonic and the flash bang grenades or batarangs or what has he.....or is using this two objects out of batman's character....or it is not part of his normal arsenal. Come now beast is not going to win if batman uses the sonic device it is just going to bounce off the walls of the danger room thus becoming stronger 🙂 and hit anything in its path and when beast is distracted the danger room is more than capable of putting beast down. Even with the flash bang results are going to be the same which are A DISTRACTED BEAST.
So...Batman can hear through his suit...but high-pitched sonic vibrations do absolutely nothing to him?
Interesting...
See, I would be okay with it if the sonic attacked in one direction, but if it's bouncing off walls, it's going everywhere, including Batman.
So, I don't think the use of sonics in such a confined space is Bats beset option.
And yea, Oni brings up a good point about gas. I would assume the X-men have trained vigourously against attacks such as gas, flash bombs, and probably even sonic attacks. And since Beast has been there since the beginning, he has more experience than almost any other X-men. It's just sad cuz they don't show too much of Beast in any comics anymore. It's all Wolverine/Cyclops/Jean saves the day.
Anyway, Beast closes the range between them in less than two seconds, then proceeds to maul Batman to death.
The Sonics and Flashbangs rendered Superman helpless, in his fight against him, and yes, it was in an even more confined space than the Danger room -- an underground pipeline. And yes, it was his first method of attack. And yes, it is consistantly although not ALWAYS his first method of attack. And then again, this doesn't have to do with what Batman might or might not do all the time in comics anyways, by forum rules, the character brings everything they have to the table, and everything Batman has, including The Modified Panther Strike [instant KO] is much more than Beast has to bring to the table.
Originally posted by Juntai
The Sonics and Flashbangs rendered Superman helpless, in his fight against him, and yes, it was in an even more confined space than the Danger room -- an underground pipeline. And yes, it was his first method of attack. And yes, it is consistantly although not ALWAYS his first method of attack. And then again, this doesn't have to do with what Batman might or might not do all the time in comics anyways, by forum rules, the character brings everything they have to the table, and everything Batman has, including The Modified Panther Strike [instant KO] is much more than Beast has to bring to the table.
Then I guess he must have been out of those grenades when Bane broke him in two, or he temporarily forgot how to do the modified panther strike as he was crying, crawling away with a broken back, crawling for the phone to call up and cry to his daddy, Azreal.
Originally posted by OnikirimaruI don't know, maybe after a week of constant fighting all of the baddest of the bad guys you MIGHT just run out, either way, it's in Batman arsenal, and it's quite capable of defeating Beast regardless of past PIS as Batman has done the days on end of fighting numerous times before and after that event without slowing a step.
Then I guess he must have been out of those grenades when Bane broke him in two, or he temporarily forgot how to do the modified panther strike as he was crying, crawling away with a broken back, crawling for the phone to call up and cry to his daddy, Azreal.
Originally posted by Onikirimaru
Then I guess he must have been out of those grenades when Bane broke him in two, or he temporarily forgot how to do the modified panther strike as he was crying, crawling away with a broken back, crawling for the phone to call up and cry to his daddy, Azreal.
yes..it had nothing to do with the fact that batman had been up all week fighting rogue after rogue...after rogue..and was so messed up that by the time bane got to him he could hardly stand much less put up a good fight.... hell he was even surprise attacked in his own home.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
So...Batman can hear through his suit...but high-pitched sonic vibrations do absolutely nothing to him?Interesting...
See, I would be okay with it if the sonic attacked in one direction, but if it's bouncing off walls, it's going everywhere, including Batman.
So, I don't think the use of sonics in such a confined space is Bats beset option.
And yea, Oni brings up a good point about gas. I would assume the X-men have trained vigourously against attacks such as gas, flash bombs, and probably even sonic attacks. And since Beast has been there since the beginning, he has more experience than almost any other X-men. It's just sad cuz they don't show too much of Beast in any comics anymore. It's all Wolverine/Cyclops/Jean saves the day.
Anyway, Beast closes the range between them in less than two seconds, then proceeds to maul Batman to death.
as far as sonics go it's his helmet that protects him from backlash..I remember reading a small blurb about it in a bat comic...just don't know how it works.