Beast vs. Batman

*sighs*

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Meh... convincing you that Batman loses anything is like convincing the tide not to come in...

that's such a load of bullshit.... I'm not convinced that batman will be beaten by spiderman or beast... doesn't mean i think batman OWNS all...

again... stuffing words and ideals into my character that I never made nor supported...whatever.

Originally posted by Dizzle
Sweet, I'm 1%... But it's really not so much of a want as a...
I am Batman. batman Roar.

Because of confined spaces, Beast 7/10.

With a larger space between them at the start, Batman 7/10.

Cityscape, starting without being able to see each other) Batman 9/10. Stealth rules.

Ya know, Beast does have enhanced superhuman senses. It would be as if Batman was sneaking up on Wolverine. It isn't happening. Stealth is not an option in this fight.

Confined space: 9/10
Larger space between them: 5/10
Cityscape (Which would also aid Beast in the use of debris as weapons or cover, so it's not just good for Batman): 5/10

But, since this thread is them in a confined space, Beast wins 9/10.

Answer me these:
Batman vs TK Psylocke if she doesn't use her long range TK on him directly?
Batman vs Wonder Woman if she's "holding back"?
Batman vs Flash if he's "holding back"?

toss up...though I lean towards psylocke as i did in the psy vs. wolvie thread.

wonder woman as proven...

flash as proven...wait how much holding back, he's shown that his immaturity can often get him into stupid situations where's he loses...

So Batman doesn't deal with Wonder Woman with ease and do just fine? And Batman doesn't deal with Flash with ease and do just fine?

no not in a fight..he doesn't do just fine..but he has proven to be fast enough to react to both of them to some extents and on multiple occasions while moving at super human speeds...hell he's reacted fast enough to supes who had the red-streak behind him while in flgiht..while in a confined space... 🤨 yet beast is going to be more impressive than that? again you're making my arguments out to be something they aren't stop reading so much into them.

Originally posted by jinzin
I'm saying that superman moves a superhuman speeds, even when holding back..so does and DID wonderwoman..neigther was faster than batman could handle... all i'm saying is exactly what I said before....he's dealt with faster.

what the hell are you talking about?

By your own words Superman and Wonderwoman when holding back can be "dealt with" by Batman. People must be as fast as or faster than Flash to even get a hit on Batman - whom Batman can trip up because he reacts so fast.

I said that batman can DEAL with their speed just fine...that's kind of different than dealing with them as a whole wouldn't you agree? 🤨..and he has... just because you don't read a whole lot of batman comics and the sort to see him do it on a semi regular basis does not make his ability to do such things as he's proven to do and less valid....

So taking the example of Flash... he can deal with Flash's speed so he beats Flash, right?
With Wonder Woman and Superman he can deal with their speed. So does he stalemate them. I mean anything they do he can react to fast enough, right?

Jinzin we're going to get you checked into a clinic, you are DAYS past your last fanboy shots.

You go around saying batman owned hulk in another thread.

Jinzin you just need to lie down, ALL of your examples wouldn't even work in a theoretical debate without plot devices, but you keep using them like this is a comic book...

tsk tsk tsk

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
So taking the example of Flash... he can deal with Flash's speed so he beats Flash, right?
With Wonder Woman and Superman he can deal with their speed. So does he stalemate them. I mean anything they do he can react to fast enough, right?

again stuffing words into my mouth so--to-speak....no...

the premise of the beast argument was that he'd be able to rush bats so fast that batman couldn't even react to beast's speed.... i fail to see how that's acurate at all given the facts we have that premise sucks..IN PART because batman has DEALT with faster people than beast and gotten out of those situations just fine AND was able to react to his attackers while they occured...

where you got batman can beat flash blah blah blah..I don't know....🤨

Originally posted by jinzin
apparently beast is now faster than flash who oops..has been tripped up by batman too...🙄

Originally posted by jinzin
flash as proven...wait how much holding back, he's shown that his immaturity can often get him into stupid situations where's he loses...

which is still faster than beast can move.....unless you're willing to argue that beast should have some sort of flash-like blue streak behind him... 🤨

He should actually. Especially when moving at top speed. Nothing anywhere near like Flash's red streak behind him, but a modest blue streak behind Beast would actually make a lot of sense.

i'm talking about flashin out, sporting the red streak.....

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
The only "but" is if Flash is moving at basically no more than a peak human can react to.

Originally posted by jinzin
which is still faster than beast can move.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
You're saying peak humans have faster reactions than those with superhuman speed and reactions? And you see no flaw in that... okay...