ITs nto a matter of Batman can't win its that he won't given the circumstances of the match. IF this were a city or somethig where he could hide retreat or otherwise use the environment to his advantage his winning chances go up as it is right now he is kinda screwed, as beast simply eviscerates him before he can realy know what he's dealing with.
Also anytime he fought man bat he had the abilty to se the environment on his side as well as knowledge of his opponent so...
On another note when was this that Batman supposedly beat Superman, to my knowledge Batman has never beaten Superman in DC canon.
This is funny, that batman fans dont see the pics. I see them fine. They are pics of Batman getting broken by Bane.
Lets put this in perspective.
Flash Grenade + Sonic Attack is an instant win.
Batman used this on Superman.
Ok, lets take that supposed fact, and apply it.
Bane broke Batman's back and laughed about it.
Wait, I can hear the wind talking to me, it says "Batman was tried he had no sleep for a week and was fighting badguys?"
Well, how much effort does it take to throw down a sonic grenade? Youd think if he was tired in this fight, he would go for the instant win Superman killing Sonic grenade. "Maybe he was out?" I dont recall him using his superman killing sonic grenades that often in the storyline. He didnt use them on every villian. If he carries them around normally, he would have used them. This means that BATMAN DOESNT HAVE IT NORMALLY. People say that in the time it takes for beast to move to rip his head off, Batman can pull a grenade out of his pocket and use it on Beast. Well, Bane is alot slower than beast, and I dont care how tired Batman was, if he had the strength to walk and talk, he can grab something out of his pocket and use it. And you cant say Nightfall was PIS, because its a big story arc and important in the Bat's career. The truth is, Batman doesnt carry around that kind of weaponry on a day to day basis, and in this NO PREP fight, he wont have them. Even if he did have them on him, BANE had plenty of time to break Batman before he used them, so BEAST, whose alot faster than Bane, would have plenty of time as well. THE END
Originally posted by Onikirimaru
This is funny, that batman fans dont see the pics. I see them fine. They are pics of Batman getting broken by Bane.Lets put this in perspective.
Flash Grenade + Sonic Attack is an instant win.
Batman used this on Superman.Ok, lets take that supposed fact, and apply it.
Bane broke Batman's back and laughed about it.
Wait, I can hear the wind talking to me, it says "Batman was tried he had no sleep for a week and was fighting badguys?"
Well, how much effort does it take to throw down a sonic grenade? Youd think if he was tired in this fight, he would go for the instant win Superman killing Sonic grenade. "Maybe he was out?" I dont recall him using his superman killing sonic grenades that often in the storyline. He didnt use them on every villian. If he carries them around normally, he would have used them. This means that BATMAN DOESNT HAVE IT NORMALLY. People say that in the time it takes for beast to move to rip his head off, Batman can pull a grenade out of his pocket and use it on Beast. Well, Bane is alot slower than beast, and I dont care how tired Batman was, if he had the strength to walk and talk, he can grab something out of his pocket and use it. And you cant say Nightfall was PIS, because its a big story arc and important in the Bat's career. The truth is, Batman doesnt carry around that kind of weaponry on a day to day basis, and in this NO PREP fight, he wont have them. Even if he did have them on him, BANE had plenty of time to break Batman before he used them, so BEAST, whose alot faster than Bane, would have plenty of time as well. THE END
why doesn't he? he's used those weapons a number of times on the fly in the past...hell it's even been DESCRIBED as part of his day to day arsenal... why doesn't he get what's been alloted to him? cause you don't like it?...if you have such a problem with batman's arsenal make a beast vs. bruce wayne thread.... 🙄
what do you mean if?.....he's got em get over it....
by that same notion, why doesn't he just glide around in his batwing jet to every fight (like with penguin, joker, henchmen etc) like he did when he tussled with GL? why doesn't he just get his batmobile to arrive to the field and blow the hell out of his opponents like he did with amazo? why doesn't he use bat-grenades to blow the shit out of his street-level opponents? why doesn't he run around in a mech suit similar to iron man, like in kingdom come? why doesn't he just pay people to make up a "bat-army" for him so he can have subjects like in the continuation of the dark knight returns?
seriously there's easier ways to go about doing the things he does but he takes his persuit against crime at a very personal mano y mano type of level... doesn't mean he doesn't have the things he has at his own disposal.
The unactivated Danger Room is by appearance approximately 80ft in diameter. In my view they'd start equidistant from each other and from the walls - so they're approximately 25ft apart. Beast sprints at 60ft a second, he can cover 25ft in a standing broad jump, he is on Batman before Batman has a chance to do anything. At which point Batman has his face eaten off.
things are not always what they appear...but then again you do make a rather bad habbit of reading too much into my posts to get what I'm actually trying to imply.
I would say batman loses..I have said it..it's just that i don't think he'll lose against beast...
beast hits him...nothing happens...
beast claws him....nothing happens....
the major argument that's been presented here is that beast is going to hit batman before batman can even react...I'vesaid it before I'll say it agian...it takes him relatively no time at all to pull out his toys... once fighting a meta human with invunerability, batman leaped back into the air chucked 3 batarangs, then pulled out and threw 2 grenades, then had another couple batarangs in his hands ready before he hit the ground... jump in the air and tell me how long that lasts...it isn't a lot of time to do something like that...but batman pulled it off...
my whole point with the superman/wonder woman thing is that batman's delt with FARRRR faster people than beast and done just fine...I keep arguing that I think manbat can cover more ground in flight than beast can on the ground (I mean he covered half of gotham in about 20 minutes....if that) and batman deals with his speed just fine... yet people keep ignoring my examples or trying to discredit them...as they continuosly attempt to discredit his arsenal...I mean the guy has friggin batarang swords that he keeps in his belt...BS or not..it's just part of who the guy is...
beast is not going to nail batman so fast batman's at a loss..if my some miracle he did..the likelyhood of him being able to incpacitate batman before batman gassed him are less than slim....
Which part of this post is so hard to comprehend.
Originally posted by xmarksthespotI'd wager having your face eaten off would incapacitate a person.
The unactivated Danger Room is by appearance approximately 80ft in diameter. In my view they'd start equidistant from each other and from the walls - so they're approximately 25ft apart. Beast sprints at 60ft a second, he can cover 25ft in a standing broad jump, he is on Batman before Batman has a chance to do anything. At which point Batman has his face eaten off.
Originally posted by xmarksthespotIt appears you're implying that Batman can deal with people as fast as Wonder Woman or Superman and do "just fine", in which case how am I misreading.
my whole point with the superman/wonder woman thing is that batman's delt with FARRRR faster people than beast and done just fine...
You tend to say "Batman loses... BUT..." rather than just leaving things at "Batman loses."
the chances of beast knowing that batman's face is the only real vulnerable part to attack, eat, is beyond slim..that's preordained knowledge..might as well give batman prep... 🙄
I'm saying that superman moves a superhuman speeds, even when holding back..so does and DID wonderwoman..neigther was faster than batman could handle... all i'm saying is exactly what I said before....he's dealt with faster.
beast is no idiot..but how many fights start out with somebody attacking an opening in his face...even his damned rogues don't usually go for that right off the bat..and they're evil geniouses....it's ridiculous....
and no...I'm saying that like you and me superman and WW can increase and reduce speed...however when they are moving in flight with motion blurs behind them and batman's still fast enough to react I have to assume that he just reacted to super speed...i've noticed you haven't yet responded to the man bat thing.... is it because you know there is no response to give I wonder... is if because you know it thrashes beast's speed argument completely?