Demonic Possession, A Realy Possibility?

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Either way, I'm not denying God, just replying to people in this thread and exposing the sheer hypocrisy.

Talk sense or don't talk.

-AC

Originally posted by Spelljammer
Well remember, nearly 80% of this forum is liberal. Duh, ofcourse there's going to be hypocrisy!

Hey, I'm not the one who's managed to make both sides hate my guts.. You may think yourself right, but as Dr. Phil says, do you want to be right or happy? Your pride has dug you a nice deep grave, and you have nowhere to turn as PVS and his cronies and KidRock and the other American badasses come to maul your ass. You remind me of myself, if I had a labatomy..

That's the sad, sad truth. People actually are out to get me and the hilarious thing is, most of them are a good decade older than me, allowing their time to be spent trying to get into an arguement with me, and losing...to cap it all off.

I'm being the more mature person by sorting it via PMs, you'd think someone of 30 would do the same.

-AC

PVS is thirty? You sure you didn't accidently add a 0? 😂

Originally posted by Spelljammer
Quite the oppisite. What partof good and evil both can't stand cowards did you not understand?

I could never be a Christian, far too much mercy and compassion for my taste. They are fools who allow the stupidity to run rampant. Satan and the legions of hell wanted mankind to be servants, which they'd probably get that wrong too, but atleast they would be doing less damage in general..

Originally posted by Afro Cheese
It's not only that quote, I've seen you talk about God and morality before. Just seems like you're someone who won't call themselves a Christian but is actually fighting for the same things they are fighting for. I mean speaking against abortion.. preaching morality... in what sense of the word could you be considered "evil?"

What makes yang seem evil, is because it is more prone to useing it's power for selfish gain and for going "overboard". This can quickly lead to evil with radical feirce quality. But in general it isn't evil, it's simply strength, preservation, and change..

The notion that God and the devil are enemies was some stupid lie conconcted by the securalists during earlier times and because people were easier to convince, it stuck.. Saint Peter didn't fall for it. And if you read the Bible the devil serves as moreso a teacher then an enemy. Through all the hate and the despair, you learn that life isn't going to be handed to you on a silver platter. Not to meation Satan had the right idea. Jesus was foolish to think he could bare the sins of man. No-one can, not even God. Mankind's ignorance is far too great. And as you can see, his sacrifice was in vain, and hummanity learned nothing.

The devil speaks logic and reasoning, but he gets a bad rep because he has that sortof iron dictator feel about him like alot of our enemies of today.. Where as God is like your fantasy of an inoffenssive democracy, where people are happy and free and fralala****inglala.. and the real world doesn't work like that. And God will spend an eternity trying to prove this wrong, and He will always fail..

THAT's why I don't call myself a Christian. The fact is, I trust the powers of the mutliple demons and thier wisdom to guide me, and the fact that I am far too cynical and pessemistic about the nature of man to ever be a "lamb"..

Originally posted by Spelljammer
The devil speaks logic and reasoning, but he gets a bad rep because he has that sortof iron dictator feel about him like alot of our enemies of today.. Where as God is like your fantasy of an inoffenssive democracy, where people are happy and free and fralala****inglala.. and the real world doesn't work like that. And God will spend an eternity trying to prove this wrong, and He will always fail..

So according to that logic, abortion, which you've already stated is evil, is still logical, correct? Same with basically any other crimes that deal with morality and "doing the right thing." The "right" thing is not necessarily the logical thing.

So then the real question is.. if you're evil, why do you preach about living up to moral standards? Like you said, God is naive for expecting us to live by a moral code, knowing that the true nature of man is not to do the right thing, but to do what benefits him. So preaching against things like abortion (just an example, this isn't a pro-choice argument) really makes you just as naive as God. Having an abortion benefits the woman, regardless of what it does to the potential child. Really, is that not the logical (aka evil) thing to do?

Originally posted by Afro Cheese
So according to that logic, abortion, which you've already stated is evil, is still logical, correct? Same with basically any other crimes that deal with morality and "doing the right thing." The "right" thing is not necessarily the logical thing.

Besides, I'm not as "pro-life" as one might think I'm just pissed off that people refuse to listen to reason. A centre-conservative would say to ban abortion exsept in the case of rape or the woman's life be indanger, but I'll go one step farther then that and say abortion be completely legal as long as it's privately funded. You're "freedom" and "logic" behind that freedom impedes on me. Why should my tax money get to fund your abortion? We're not a socialism, and last time I checked, people were entitled to thier indivudal rights. So unless you want a securalist-fascist state (which by the way most liberals do they just won't admit it) where you think left in your views but expect to force it upon the people, then you can't deny that abortion, as it currently stands, is wrong..

Also as I said, they are not enemies. There has to be a balance and a blend of the two. Or life could not prosper. But they have to get past the peverse elements that can befall them. Selfishness being a big one, every person wants to preserve life to some extent, wether it be thier own, that of animals, that of innocent people, or even farther.. But to some extent everyone wants to protect life. So what the hell are you doing slaughtering an innocent creature who can't defend itself? For selfish gain.

But that's not my place to judge you. There's celestial bodies to do that. My place, is to help instill a goverment program, that allows you to **** yourself over while at the same time not bringing me down with you. That way, you can have all your happy little freedoms, but not at my, or any other pro-lifer's expense. Make sense?

i once had to play lucifer in a play, and she wasnt evil, she was just trying to help out god by showing the people how to balance life.

Originally posted by leana marie
i once had to play lucifer in a play, and she wasnt evil, she was just trying to help out god by showing the people how to balance life.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
That's the sad, sad truth. People actually are out to get me

People are not out to get you, please stop the whiny victim thing, it has gone beyond being tiresome.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
and the hilarious thing is, most of them are a good decade older than me, allowing their time to be spent trying to get into an arguement with me, and losing...to cap it all off.

So are you saying that it is a waste of time to engage in a debate with someone under 30? Are you saying that it is a waste of time to debate issues with someone who is your age? That is an interesting thing for you to say. Or are you saying it is a waste of time as you see yourself as one who is unparralled in the art of debate?

It is interesting that you see it as hilarious that elder people spend their time debating with you. As for myself, I spend many hours at the computer as I make a living as a writer. I come to this site for an odd diversion from the hours of research or writing that I do. Often it is true that I find myself debating with you, partially for the entertainment of it, partially out of procrastinating getting back to work, partially because sometimes your attitude is so ridiculous that I am compelled to respond out of pure disgust.

As for people losing a debate to you, I haven't seen it that often. You often outlast you opposition by continuing to post when others have lost interest, but that is not a victory. That is just the fact that people have better things to do, perhaps the amusement that you provided wore off?

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I'm being the more mature person by sorting it via PMs, you'd think someone of 30 would do the same.-AC

Actually if you look at your entire post objectively, you'd question the maturity of the young man who wrote it.

So out of that rather long and pointless post we've established the following:

-You start arguements with me out of boredom, regardless of whether they are relevant or not.

-You still, despite our discussing it, felt the need to even post that huge reply that had absolutely NOTHING to do with the thread.

-You respond to me...out of pure disgust?

This got me though:

Originally posted by KharmaDog
People are not out to get you, please stop the whiny victim thing, it has gone beyond being tiresome.

Because you followed it with:

Originally posted by KharmaDog
Often it is true that I find myself debating with you, partially for the entertainment of it, partially out of procrastinating getting back to work, partially because sometimes your attitude is so ridiculous that I am compelled to respond out of pure disgust.

Haha, the irony. I've had all the business with you that I wish to have 🙂. Thanks for taking part, you've been useful.

It's a shame you continue to bear a grudge. Once again, proving what I've always said without me even having to. Any reply will once again be met with a swift PM. Pleasure doing business with you.

-AC

AC, you say for us to just PM you, but didn't you complain PVS was stalking you over PM and kept bothering you just like a day ago?

No, you obviously misread the post and concept completely.

I PM the people, I don't request to be PMed. Well, I do, they just never bother so I take the problem off the public forum. I did it with KharmaDog, I did it with PVS twice (in which I actually felt some level of productivity today). I'll do so again if need be.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
So out of that rather long and pointless post we've established the following:

-You start arguements with me out of boredom, regardless of whether they are relevant or not.

I like the way "whether they are relevant or not" was put in there. Way to put words in the mouth of another to sound superior. Very Mature.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
-You still, despite our discussing it, felt the need to even post that huge reply that had absolutely NOTHING to do with the thread.

As with your response, sure.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
-You respond to me...out of pure disgust?

Occasionally, yes.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri

Haha, the irony. I've had all the business with you that I wish to have 🙂. Thanks for taking part, you've been useful.

It's a shame you continue to bear a grudge. Once again, proving what I've always said without me even having to. Any reply will once again be met with a swift PM. Pleasure doing business with you.

-AC

You have proved nothing, once again you try to snatch a victory where there is nonr, nor any need for there to be one. And finally you resort to a condescending tone and the mature response that you counter with is basically, "I am not listening, na na na na na".

❌

I'll admit, I find it odd that I'm accused of longing the spotlight yet your distinct lust for debate with me diminishes out of sight from the other forum users. However, I PMed you. Doing as advised and taking personal issues off the forum. Once again, pleasure doing business with you.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
No, you obviously misread the post and concept completely.

I PM the people, I don't request to be PMed. Well, I do, they just never bother so I take the problem off the public forum.

-AC

If you don't request to be PM'd why do you ask so many questions in your PM's?

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I'll admit, I find it odd that I'm accused of longing the spotlight yet your distinct lust for debate with me diminishes out of sight from the other forum users. However, I PMed you. Doing as advised and taking personal issues off the forum. Once again, pleasure doing business with you.

-AC

Lust for debate? You do have a flare for the dramatic. You think that I personally attack you? Could it be that you manufacture certain responses and phrase certain posts in order to encourage posts from others in order that you may be the centre of yet another debate? Think about it.

I have no doubt that you will respond to this post as you seem it necessary to always have the last word.

I hazard to guess that this thread will be closed soon, not only for this discourse, but also that the debate has not really led anywhere for a few pages.

Originally posted by BlackC@t
Or you'll what!?

Still deciding.

Originally posted by Spelljammer
Ever notice how it's those who don't believe in God who feel they have justification for murder, immoral behavoir, and other hanusity?

Put me out of my misery- 'hanusity'?

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
Put me out of my misery- 'hanusity'?

Go on...