Gambit VS Captain America

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Originally posted by ThePittman
In our reality building a time machine would be super human because for one all the math and theories says that time travel is not possible. Does that mean that some smart scientist won’t find the correct math or equation, only a hundred years ago flying to the moon would have been impossible or recently going faster than the speed of sound was impossible.Breakthroughs in science happens all the time and doesn’t require super human brain to figure it out.

thats deep

deep moment on the boards...

Cap for the win

Originally posted by Redatom65
deep moment on the boards...

Cap for the win

😛

Thank god, a vs. thread against a superhuman that cap can undoubtedly win! I love cap. He's awesome. Im not too up on either of them lately, dont know anything about what add-ons to power theyve gotten. But I say Cap wins via charge or shield toss. Even if Gambit dodges, the shield rebounds 💃

In a normal setting, i can see gambit winning
too much expolsive tossing and

for the record

as far as accuracy/throwing feats goes

Bullseye>>>>>captain america

I have added some scans of some throwing skills of Gambit that questioned his skill.

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i244/caslandr/gambit/Throwing_Gambit_004.jpg
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i244/caslandr/gambit/Throwing_Gambit_005.jpg

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i244/caslandr/gambit/Throwing_Gambit_001.jpg

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i244/caslandr/gambit/Throwing_Gambit_002.jpg
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i244/caslandr/gambit/Throwing_Gambit_003.jpg

Gambit has great accuracy anyone who thinks he doesnt needs to read some more, Cap has a better trick for the fact that th shield can literally strike gambit almost 20 times with one throw.

But cap is as agile and a better blocker than gambit is a card thrower, and gambits only got about 1 second to hit him because after that, game over.

Originally posted by ThePittman
Well I agree that Cap is the better fighter skill wise and stronger and has more endurance than Gambit but Gambit is no slouch either. In comic wise I would agree with you that Gambit would try and go toe to toe in some fights but that would be CIS. Cap is a skilled urban fighter but so is Gambit, a master thief skilled in deception and using the environment. I can’t see Cap avoiding getting touched in the fight and that is all Gambit needs, if Gambit was going against Spider-Man he would be owned big time.

I still hate that they consider him to be peek human because with all the things that he can do is well beyond peek human.

CIS isn't barred from debates...

All we need to do to settle this debate is look at the AMAZING GAME:

MARVEL VS. CAPCOM 2

If you use your CHARGING STAR at the same time Gambit uses his FIFTY-TWO card pick up!!! Guess which move prevails... and guess who gets smacked down. The end.

CAP WINS!!!

Originally posted by Rick/Genis
CIS isn't barred from debates...
the fact of the matter is, is that Cap isnt letting gambit touch him, he knows who the **** gambit is, and cap plays the field too well. He would avoid all finget tip contact.

I know... I agree with you, buddy.

Originally posted by Rick/Genis
I know... I agree with you, buddy.
like 90% of the time....

probably more like 96%

Originally posted by Rick/Genis
probably more like 96%
yeah now that i read up on genis...

why is everybody wasting time on comparing their accuracy? they're fighting each other, and i think it's safe to say that they can each hit a man-sized target. so that's kinda a moot point.

i think cap would win, and by all rights cap should win, but gambit takes at least 3/10. he's superhumanly agile, can block bullets with his staff, can draw charge and throw GIANT EXPLODING CARDS in fractions of a second...

Originally posted by Alfheim
No no no no no.

Cap has escaped from a device which is used to contain shape shifters thats more impressive than picking a lock with your feet. You just dont know cap. Cap was escaping from prisons and stuff before Gambit was born.

heh.

and yet Cap spent three thirds of his life in an ice cube.

heh.

Originally posted by don't shiv
heh.

and yet Cap spent three thirds of his life in an ice cube.

heh.

He was unconscious moron. Im sorry cap usually has to be awake in order to escape from stuff.

Originally posted by marvelprince
Cap is not as/more accurate than Bullseye.

http://img134.imageshack.us/my.php?image=deadpool028165ic.jpg
http://img134.imageshack.us/my.php?image=deadpool028176xv.jpg

More

http://img88.imageshack.us/my.php?image=daredevilthetargetbk01182qe.jpg
http://img88.imageshack.us/my.php?image=daredevilthetargetbk01198dr.jpg
http://img88.imageshack.us/my.php?image=daredevilthetargetbk01208ll.jpg

Another

http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/8772/accuracy213xs.gif

Well this is the thing cap cant kill a person at a 100 fet with a toothpick, what im saying is that Cap is more accurate with his shield. The problem with these scans is that eventhough they are very difficult tasks they still dont compare to caps.

http://img407.imageshack.us/my.php?image=s5yj1.jpg

The distance is shorter but cap cant see what hes aiming at and is not using his hands.

http://img247.imageshack.us/my.php?image=capskilllm4.jpg

That accuracy is like pre-cog. He is able to predict where the shield is going to land at the same time he throws flag smasher.

The problem with Bullseyes is that he is using his hands and he knows more or less were his target is. Cap is not just aiming he is predicting.

Originally posted by ThePittman
Gambit can pick locks with his feet because he is a thief, he was chained to a wall hanging and lifted his body to pick the lock with his boots on, this means that it is not just “wiggling his toes” as so stated. He has to move and adjust his weight to get that fine manipulation to pick the lock, does that mean that he can throw cards with his feet with the same level of skill as his hands, no but neither can Cap, if that was the case then why wouldn’t he throw it all the time with his feet?

My point was that he may need to throw cards with his feet because he may get his hands tied up. He is thief and a super hero and like cap he may find himself in a death trap that where using his feet may come in handy.

We can assume that Cap is more skillful because if he can do that with his feet he is even more accurate with his hands.

Originally posted by ThePittman

As for Bullseye, Marvel says that his skill in near super human.
http://www.marvel.com/universe/Bullseye

The absolute pinnacle of human perfection isnt near superhuman?

Originally posted by ThePittman
In our reality building a time machine would be super human because for one all the math and theories says that time travel is not possible. Does that mean that some smart scientist won’t find the correct math or equation, only a hundred years ago flying to the moon would have been impossible or recently going faster than the speed of sound was impossible.Breakthroughs in science happens all the time and doesn’t require super human brain to figure it out.

Well basically the point is this....

Originally posted by ThePittman
In our reality building a time machine would be super human because for one all the math and theories says that time travel is not possible.

Anything you said after that is irrelevant. Therefore if Doom can build a time machine and still be human cap can see bullets and be....human...well enhanced human.

Originally posted by Rick/Genis
CIS isn't barred from debates...
I'm not saying CIS is banned but every character has fought stupidly and also great, Gambit has out thought and fought some great fighters as well as being to cocky.
Originally posted by Rick/Genis
All we need to do to settle this debate is look at the AMAZING GAME:

[b]MARVEL VS. CAPCOM 2

If you use your CHARGING STAR at the same time Gambit uses his FIFTY-TWO card pick up!!! Guess which move prevails... and guess who gets smacked down. The end.

CAP WINS!!! [/B]

😛 Very funny 😉
Originally posted by King KAM
the fact of the matter is, is that Cap isnt letting gambit touch him, he knows who the **** gambit is, and cap plays the field too well. He would avoid all finget tip contact.
The only way Cap couldn't not allow Gambit to touch him is to not get into H2H with him or is in such a skill level above Gambit such as Spider-Man that he could avoid the touch, which he is not.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Well this is the thing cap cant kill a person at a 100 fet with a toothpick, what im saying is that Cap is more accurate with his shield. The problem with these scans is that eventhough they are very difficult tasks they still dont compare to caps.

http://img407.imageshack.us/my.php?image=s5yj1.jpg

The distance is shorter but cap cant see what hes aiming at and is not using his hands.

http://img247.imageshack.us/my.php?image=capskilllm4.jpg

That accuracy is like pre-cog. He is able to predict where the shield is going to land at the same time he throws flag smasher.

The problem with Bullseyes is that he is using his hands and he knows more or less were his target is. Cap is not just aiming he is predicting.

Cap has great accuracy, I'm not disagreeing you but he only uses his shield, he knows everything about it from the way it moves to how if flies in a storm. Bullseyes can use anything as weapons from a toothpick to a box of tissues, he instinctively knows how something will fly and use it to it full potential, and this requires more skill and accuracy then Cap.

Originally posted by Alfheim
[B
My point was that he may need to throw cards with his feet because he may get his hands tied up. He is thief and a super hero and like cap he may find himself in a death trap that where using his feet may come in handy.

We can assume that Cap is more skillful because if he can do that with his feet he is even more accurate with his hands. [/B]

When he is using the shield to bounce of this it is not pre-cog in the least, he knows exactly where it will end up before he throws it and then puts the opponent in that spot to be hit. With that logic you can say the same about Gambit. This is totally irrelevant.

Originally posted by Alfheim
[B
The absolute pinnacle of human perfection isnt near superhuman? [/B]

Read his Bullseye Bio again.
http://www.marvel.com/universe/Bullseye
" Bullseye has no superhuman powers. However, his uncanny ability to use virtually any common object as a lethal projectile actually makes him more dangerous than many characters who do have superhuman powers. Although he is not technically superhuman, Bullseye can accomplish many feats with thrown projectiles. He has demonstrated the ability to lacerate a person's throat with a thrown playing card, spit his own tooth through a human skull, toss a paper airplane to a distant rooftop, and kill a person with a toothpick thrown through a window from a hundred yards away."

Originally posted by Alfheim
[B
Anything you said after that is irrelevant. Therefore if Doom can build a time machine and still be human cap can see bullets and be....human...well enhanced human. [/B]
No it is not because a human can not see a bullet, period this is medical fact and I shouldn't have to teach you biology so get off this, I'm not your high school teacher. In order for a human to see a bullet in flight they have to be super human, Cap shouldn't be classified as peak human because he does feats that are above that, such as see bullets in flight.

Another thing that I just remembered, with the whole Cap can see bullets thing Gambit does the same. He can use his staff to deflect bullets, which required more degree of control then using a large shield, and not only deflect them but actually send them back to the shooter. No I don't have a scan for you because the comic that it is in is back home in AZ, if anyone has the scan that would be great.