Gambit VS Captain America

Originally posted by ThePittman

Cap has great accuracy, I'm not disagreeing you but he only uses his shield, he knows everything about it from the way it moves to how if flies in a storm. Bullseyes can use anything as weapons from a toothpick to a box of tissues, he instinctively knows how something will fly and use it to it full potential, and this requires more skill and accuracy then Cap.

Yes I know all that....nevermind. I'll just be repeating myself again.

Originally posted by ThePittman

When he is using the shield to bounce of this it is not pre-cog in the least, he knows exactly where it will end up before he throws it and then puts the opponent in that spot to be hit. With that logic you can say the same about Gambit. This is totally irrelevant.

Pittman, pittman, pittman what am I gonna do with you? Yes I know its not pre-cog its like pre-cog because its so accurate. How the hell has Gambit done anything similar to what cap did. All Gambit does is aim at a target, its not the same as what cap did in ths scans. Im mean all you did is show me some rubbish scans of Gambit hitting an object from 50 feet away and then killing some zombie thing...serioulsy now your just wasting my time

Originally posted by ThePittman

Read his Bullseye Bio again.
http://www.marvel.com/universe/Bullseye
" Bullseye has no superhuman powers. However, his uncanny ability to use virtually any common object as a lethal projectile actually makes him more dangerous than many characters who do have superhuman powers. Although he is not technically superhuman, Bullseye can accomplish many feats with thrown projectiles. He has demonstrated the ability to lacerate a person's throat with a thrown playing card, spit his own tooth through a human skull, toss a paper airplane to a distant rooftop, and kill a person with a toothpick thrown through a window from a hundred yards away."

...and? I dont even think you got my point.

Originally posted by ThePittman

No it is not because a human can not see a bullet, period this is medical fact and I shouldn't have to teach you biology so get off this, I'm not your high school teacher. In order for a human to see a bullet in flight they have to be super human, Cap shouldn't be classified as peak human because he does feats that are above that, such as see bullets in flight.

Well I wont disagree with that but I will disagree with it being PIS

Originally posted by ThePittman
Another thing that I just remembered, with the whole Cap can see bullets thing Gambit does the same. He can use his staff to deflect bullets, which required more degree of control then using a large shield, and not only deflect them but actually send them back to the shooter. No I don't have a scan for you because the comic that it is in is back home in AZ, if anyone has the scan that would be great.

Until gambit says he can actually see bullets hes not seeing bullets, it could be argued that when people point guns at him he can predict where the bullets are going to be and he puts his staff there.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Yes I know all that....nevermind. I'll just be repeating myself again.

Pittman, pittman, pittman what am I gonna do with you? Yes I know its not pre-cog its like pre-cog because its so accurate. How the hell has Gambit done anything similar to what cap did. All Gambit does is aim at a target, its not the same as what cap did in ths scans. Im mean all you did is show me some rubbish scans of Gambit hitting an object from 50 feet away and then killing some zombie thing...serioulsy now your just wasting my time

...and? I dont even think you got my point.

Well I wont disagree with that but I will disagree with it being PIS

Until gambit says he can actually see bullets hes not seeing bullets, it could be argued that when people point guns at him he can predict where the bullets are going to be and he puts his staff there.

There is no difference from throwing a shield into a wall and throwing a card that hit its target at 50 feet away, the only thing that Cap does that is different is calculate the ricochet of the shield bouncing off objects to hit its target. Gambit throws multiple cards with one throw hitting each target in a precise spot; this requires the same amount of calculations.

Your point about Gambit having to say that he can see bullets is BS, that would also mean that Cap is not super human because everything says that he is not. In order to be able to stop bullets with a staff and redirect them back at the shooter would require lighting reflexes and to see the path of the bullet, remember the width of the staff is less then an inch and the area to reflect something back at someone is less then 10% of that. The thought process of this is the same as Cap bouncing his shield off of walls except that he is not doing the initial toss.

Let’s say for the sake of the argument that Cap is more precise then Gambit (You haven’t shown anything to prove other wise), Gambit doesn’t need to hit his target for it to be effective. In one deck of cards he basically has 52 hand grenades to throw so he can effect and damage Cap with area effect. He can do the 52 card pick up and level a city block, he can use any object to do the same thing.

You do realize that if it were written, captain America would win, right? I know that doesn't matter but it's a point to mention.

It doesn't take the same calculations to throw lots of cards as it does to ricochet something. If you were playing pool and had lots of balls it would be easier than letting one ball ricochet off each corner (I think that's the best way to describe it). Also... seeing something in slow motion and being able to deflect something back at something is not necessarily the same. A Fly can come back at me and I can hit it with a baseball bat... it means I can see it, but not in slowmotion. Gambit may see a bullet better than the average human.. but not in slowmotion like it has been PROVEN with Cap.

Gambit should take this but Cap. America's jobber aura won't allow it.
The shield isn't that big he can't cover all over with it. Plus Gambit is just as fast and precise as him. I remember that years so aliens were shooting at Gambit with some machinegun like weapon and he out danced the bullets.

But anyway you just can't beat a guy wearing a flag.

Originally posted by Rick/Genis
You do realize that if it were written, captain America would win, right? I know that doesn't matter but it's a point to mention.

It doesn't take the same calculations to throw lots of cards as it does to ricochet something. If you were playing pool and had lots of balls it would be easier than letting one ball ricochet off each corner (I think that's the best way to describe it). Also... seeing something in slow motion and being able to deflect something back at something is not necessarily the same. A Fly can come back at me and I can hit it with a baseball bat... it means I can see it, but not in slowmotion. Gambit may see a bullet better than the average human.. but not in slowmotion like it has been PROVEN with Cap.

I know that Cap is stronger, a better H2H fighter and has way more endurance and in these categories I have never disputed.

why does everyone think that cap cant take a blast???? people underestimate his durability, he COULD take a bunch of blasts from the cards, he wouldnt but he could if he needed to save some kids or some shit

Originally posted by Rick/Genis
All we need to do to settle this debate is look at the AMAZING GAME:

[b]MARVEL VS. CAPCOM 2

If you use your CHARGING STAR at the same time Gambit uses his FIFTY-TWO card pick up!!! Guess which move prevails... and guess who gets smacked down. The end.

CAP WINS!!! [/B]

Originally posted by King KAM
why does everyone think that cap cant take a blast???? people underestimate his durability, he COULD take a bunch of blasts from the cards, he wouldnt but he could if he needed to save some kids or some shit

I think the Charging star beats juggs too.. not too sure about that though.

When I played the game, I beat everyone with Jugg’s charge, even the Hulk.

no... we're talking about if He does s Charging Star and Juggernaut does his headbutt... who comes out the victor?

I'm not sure, but I did Jugg's move through the game and they did theirs and I still won but I don't know if that move stopped it.

From what I read, the Dan character has the strongest move.

Originally posted by TheKahn
the reason I picked these two guys is becase one is mainly defensive (Cap's shield) and the other is mostly offensive (Gambit's cards) If Gambit can keep his distance he might could take Cap out

sorry, curbstomp

Originally posted by ThePittman
Let’s say for the sake of the argument that Cap is more precise then Gambit (You haven’t shown anything to prove other wise), Gambit doesn’t need to hit his target for it to be effective. In one deck of cards he basically has 52 hand grenades to throw so he can effect and damage Cap with area effect. He can do the 52 card pick up and level a city block, he can use any object to do the same thing.

Excatly what i was saynig earlier

Even if we suggest that gambit is less accurate than capt

hes basicly throwing grenades
to a large extent, accuracy isint incredibly important

Another thing

Why is everoyne speaking as if its going to be 1 shot KO for cap?
he tosses his shield at gambit and then.. its over?

surely you dont all thing thats how this fights going to go do you?
that would be silly

Originally posted by newyorkcares
Hellz no. Work with me,here. A theif with the ability to charge playing cards against...the legend of world war 2? what the fuzz? cap would own gambit with a sheild to the chops before gambit could even spit out snappy cajun banter. not quite a curb stopm, but an ass whupping indeed.

Originally posted by ExtraMision5555
Another thing

Why is everoyne speaking as if its going to be 1 shot KO for cap?
he tosses his shield at gambit and then.. its over?

surely you dont all thing thats how this fights going to go do you?
that would be silly

As for your hand grenade comment, How long do you think gambit has until Cap gets to him, because in reality if cap keeps the shield he might have 1 second, if cap throws the shield he has 1 second that he doesnt even get to focus.

I have scans of cap stepping on landmines and then flipping away before the mine itself blows up, meaning Gambit better hit his ass, because if hes close, than cap gets away.