Gambit VS Captain America

Originally posted by King KAM
gambit was frightened to fight Deadpool, who is frightened to fight cap.

As for your hand grenade comment, How long do you think gambit has until Cap gets to him, because in reality if cap keeps the shield he might have 1 second, if cap throws the shield he has 1 second that he doesnt even get to focus.

I have scans of cap stepping on landmines and then flipping away before the mine itself blows up, meaning Gambit better hit his ass, because if hes close, than cap gets away.

Gambit frightened to fight DP, who was frighteend to fight cap

well

fortunately here were not writeing a comic, and a varible such as the one you just listed would have no bearing in this fight
otherwise this is a non-fight

Now that thats out of the way
i really dont understand why gambit wouldent be able to dodge caps shield, its not a homeing missile, nore is it 300 foot cinderblock flying at light speeds. I understand cap is very, very adept with his shield, dont get me wrong, but lets not forget that gambit too is adept with his card(s) (key word, carS, multiple)

And cap does have crazy reflexes, yes, but replace 1 landmine with 16 landmines blowing up simotainously
Cap can do all the flipping and dogeing he likes, but short of teleportation in a nightcrawler-esque fashion, theirs a point where a blast is unavoideable. COuld he survive an assault like that from gambit? aboslutely, and im not saying he wouldent. But he sure isint dodgeing it all of the time (and vice versa)
And although not AS likely, gambit could attempt to mess up the trajectroy of the shield via cards. IM not saying this is a viable tactic, or even that it would happen, but gambit has multiple avenues of averting getting slapped by caps shield.

But heres what wont happen,

fight starts
cap throws his shield
hits gambit in the head
the end

thats just goofy

One problem is the type of landmine that he tripped blast vs. fragmentation; a blast would be very easy for someone of Caps skill to dodge, even Gambit or any other skilled person. Blast landmines are the most common form of anti-personal landmine used so more than likely it was this type, this are low yield explosives and do more breaking damage to targets with the concussive force. This is not a very impressive feat and also given the fact that Cap knows that he just stepped on a mine, where it is and can prepare for the maneuver.

OH, and Deadpool is also scared of little pink trolls but that doesn't make them masters at H2H. 😛

Originally posted by ThePittman
One problem is the type of landmine that he tripped blast vs. fragmentation; a blast would be very easy for someone of Caps skill to dodge, even Gambit or any other skilled person. Blast landmines are the most common form of anti-personal landmine used so more than likely it was this type, this are low yield explosives and do more breaking damage to targets with the concussive force. This is not a very impressive feat and also given the fact that Cap knows that he just stepped on a mine, where it is and can prepare for the maneuver.

OH, and Deadpool is also scared of little pink trolls but that doesn't make them masters at H2H. 😛

👆

Originally posted by ExtraMision5555
Gambit frightened to fight DP, who was frighteend to fight cap

well

fortunately here were not writeing a comic, and a varible such as the one you just listed would have no bearing in this fight
otherwise this is a non-fight

Now that thats out of the way
i really dont understand why gambit wouldent be able to dodge caps shield, its not a homeing missile, nore is it 300 foot cinderblock flying at light speeds. I understand cap is very, very adept with his shield, dont get me wrong, but lets not forget that gambit [b]too is adept with his card(s) (key word, carS, multiple)

And cap does have crazy reflexes, yes, but replace 1 landmine with 16 landmines blowing up simotainously
Cap can do all the flipping and dogeing he likes, but short of teleportation in a nightcrawler-esque fashion, theirs a point where a blast is unavoideable. COuld he survive an assault like that from gambit? aboslutely, and im not saying he wouldent. But he sure isint dodgeing it all of the time (and vice versa)
And although not AS likely, gambit could attempt to mess up the trajectroy of the shield via cards. IM not saying this is a viable tactic, or even that it would happen, but gambit has multiple avenues of averting getting slapped by caps shield.

But heres what wont happen,

fight starts
cap throws his shield
hits gambit in the head
the end

thats just goofy [/B]

As for the hand grenade thing, if cap keeps the shield. He blocks the blasts and jumps and dodges most of them, I mean the man has been able to dodge multiple grenades, and block lazers which were coming at him damn near simealtaneuously, If h can block things traveling at the speed of light he can block cards.

And as for him needing to dissapear....He can do that too...

What EVERYONE needs to realize and face the fact of is this:

If this fight lasts more than 4 seconds it's going to end in a close combat scenario... which gives the lean a 100% advantage to Cap.

gambit is very skilled hand to hand. combined with his superhuman attributes and charging abilities, i don't think that cap will even TOTALLY dominate h2h. sure, the cap is vastly superior in skill and experience, but to say that gambit gets taken out without being able to lay a single finger on cap or the shield is an insult.

Originally posted by manorastroman
gambit is very skilled hand to hand. combined with his superhuman attributes and charging abilities, i don't think that cap will even TOTALLY dominate h2h. sure, the cap is vastly superior in skill and experience, but to say that gambit gets taken out without being able to lay a single finger on cap or the shield is an insult.

And in other news...i just read civil war 6....cap demolished punisher..lol

bam!

Originally posted by Rick/Genis
bam!

No... I want it bad!

Cap beat Frank cause Frank wouldn't even hit him back. I wouldn't take too much pride in that.

Cap still wins this one though

Originally posted by King KAM
no its not an insult, its the truth, cap is still physically superior, much better trained, and is one of the hardest men in comics to land a blow on.

And in other news...i just read civil war 6....cap demolished punisher..lol

CAN YOU PUT A SPOILER ALERT ON TAHT???????

GOSH!!!!!!!!!

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KAM!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by King KAM
no its not an insult, its the truth, cap is still physically superior, much better trained, and is one of the hardest men in comics to land a blow on.

And in other news...i just read civil war 6....cap demolished punisher..lol

Is Cap really physically superior? I was told Gambit was twice stronger and faster than a normal human.

Originally posted by marvelprince
Cap beat Frank cause Frank wouldn't even hit him back. I wouldn't take too much pride in that.

Cap still wins this one though

Why the hell wouldnt he fight back...all of a sudden frank worships cap? There aint much difference between DD and Cap.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Why the hell wouldnt he fight back...all of a sudden frank worships cap? There aint much difference between DD and Cap.

Frank never really goes out of his way to fight Daredevil. Most of the times I can think of involve Frank trying to kill someone and Matt busting in to kick his ass. He's even tried to help Matt a lot of times. Difference between Matt and Steve though is that Frank considers Steve to be a soldier. He's a legend that even Frank used to look up to.

Originally posted by marvelprince
Frank never really goes out of his way to fight Daredevil. Most of the times I can think of involve Frank trying to kill someone and Matt busting in to kick his ass. He's even tried to help Matt a lot of times. Difference between Matt and Steve though is that Frank considers Steve to be a soldier. He's a legend that even Frank used to look up to.

That makes sense. Its a shame they had to fight because I like Frank as well. When you think about it both of them are extermists. One refuses to kill and one always kill, if they could both find some middle ground everything could be fine.

Originally posted by Francisco
Is Cap really physically superior? I was told Gambit was twice stronger and faster than a normal human.

Originally posted by ThePittman
First off do not talk down to me like I’m some little kid, all you do it make yourself look immature.

I'll try to stop but you are giving me rubbish scans.

Originally posted by ThePittman

There is no difference from throwing a shield into a wall and throwing a card that hit its target at 50 feet away,

Hitting a terget 50 feet away is standard street leveler accuracy....its no big deal.

Originally posted by ThePittman

the only thing that Cap does that is different is calculate the ricochet of the shield bouncing off objects to hit its target. Gambit throws multiple cards with one throw hitting each target in a precise spot; this requires the same amount of calculations.

Look im serioulsy trying not to be rude, but you are wasting my time. First of all those targets where in front of him, he could seem them clearly and the zombies were practically stationary. Yes it was difficult to hit them in the exact spot but thats the only amazing thing he did.

http://img247.imageshack.us/my.php?image=capskilllm4.jpg

So do I have to go into detail about how the above scan is more complicated than what Gambit did in your scans. If you want to prove that Gambit is more accurate you have to give me better scans.

Originally posted by ThePittman

Your point about Gambit having to say that he can see bullets is BS, that would also mean that Cap is not super human because everything says that he is not. In order to be able to stop bullets with a staff and redirect them back at the shooter would require lighting reflexes and to see the path of the bullet, remember the width of the staff is less then an inch and the area to reflect something back at someone is less then 10% of that. The thought process of this is the same as Cap bouncing his shield off of walls except that he is not doing the initial toss.

Is Gambit redirecting the bullets or is he just blocking the bullets?

Gambit can just charge the ground. Cap can't fly. BOOM!

Originally posted by Alfheim
I'll try to stop but you are giving me rubbish scans.

Hitting a terget 50 feet away is standard street leveler accuracy....its no big deal.

Look im serioulsy trying not to be rude, but you are wasting my time. First of all those targets where in front of him, he could seem them clearly and the zombies were practically stationary. Yes it was difficult to hit them in the exact spot but thats the only amazing thing he did.

http://img247.imageshack.us/my.php?image=capskilllm4.jpg

So do I have to go into detail about how the above scan is more complicated than what Gambit did in your scans. If you want to prove that Gambit is more accurate you have to give me better scans.

Is Gambit redirecting the bullets or is he just blocking the bullets?

As for proving how this is more difficult then hitting a target 50 feet away while holding a trigger to a bomb and hitting the trigger, person and cutting the tripwire that is incased in glass while only breaking the glass and cutting the trip wire that you can barely see and stopping at just the wire while not going into the device and triggering it is not impressive? With Cap you keep saying that he can’t see his targets but he can see all three walls and the guy is standing right in front of him.

As for the bullets his blocks them all the time and not only blocking them but redirecting them back at the shooter and this is from automatic fire and in another case multiple shooters.