Onslaught vs. Ragnos and/or NJO Luke

So. You have a being molded from the consciousness of two of the most powerful mutants on the planet (Magneto and Professor Xavier). Now, we do not know enough about Ragnos to argue his proficiency. I am not aware of where it states that Ragnos is capable of destroying solar systems. Judging from your response, it was merely an assumption. I think Illustrious may know, so we'll wait for him to show up. If it's true, then perhaps he might beat Onslaught.

Onslaught possesses Xavier's power - and has the willingness to use it. Force or no Force - I highly doubt NJO Luke or Ragnos are immune to the powers of the most powerful telepathic mutant on the planet. Then throw in Magneto, who controls magnetism - as well as the ability to control the Earth's magnetic field - you have two dangerously powerful mutants combined into a ruthless monster.

He can simply cause Ragnos and NJO Luke to forget who the hell they are, place them in an illusion, and kill them. We KNOW precisely what Onslaught is capable of.

We do NOT - on the other hand - about Ragnos.

The new dimension was a bi-product of his defeat. When he died, the vast energy expanses in his body (and when it was controlled by Franklin Richards) - it made a new dimension.

So you're right. It only (as far as we know) would occur when he died.

I'm with Somebody here; and I highly doubt that either Luke OR Ragnos could lift one hundred tons with the Force. The X-Wing lifted by Yoda in ESb was a couple of tons. Now granted, it wasn't his full effort, but it was rather obvious that it took some toll on him. I'd say that, at most, Yoda could lift 30 tons or so with the Force. Luke and Ragnos? 50 or 60, at most.

Guys, as much as I love the Star Wars Universe, its two most powerful beings would likely fall to the most powerful being in Marvel history, rivalling or surpassing even the destroyer and conquerer of a galactic level, Galactus himself.

Now. Perhaps Ragnos could defeat Onslaught. As Illustrious has stated time and time again, we simply don't know enough about him to rank him in terms of power. Saying he managed to make Sadow fear him is like saying Sidious managed to cow Dooku. We know for certain that Dooku feared Sidious - and yet many of you argued Dooku was superior - and that Sidious merely manipulated Dooku into fearing him. This may very well be the case with Ragnos.

Being the most powerful mutant is nothing next to the most powerful force user the galaxy has ever seen. Jedi have the ability to change people's memory and they can protect themselves from it. We know a lot about Luke. He alone could take onslaught.

Ragnos is not ever said to be able to destroy stars, that guy just pulled that out of his arse.

Glentract, Xavier specialized in that sort of thing. You know those Jedi Mind Tricks that people can do? Xavier could make it permenant if he wanted. But he has a damn conscience. We've seen that he is capable of doing basically whatever the hell he wants with other people's minds. Jedi's have limits.

The Jedi USE the Force. Mutants POSSESS their own powers.

no lightsabers or swords remember magnitos powers. Ragnos beat Simus a guy who lived as a head in a jar. That means a lot.

Originally posted by Darth Somebody
The Jedi USE the Force. Mutants POSSESS their own powers.

I can use a shotgun, or I can possess a BB gun. That doesn't mean crap.

But see, you don't seem to be able to comprehend the power of that being, be as it may that he's the mightiest on the planet. But how do you know that he isn't one of the most powerful in the galaxy? Chances are he is; the Marvel Universe itself features beings from all over the galaxy, even varying galaxies.

Magneto himself can manipulate the very iron in a beings bloodstream. Onslaught would tear it from their bodies. So Ragnos, in all that armor, would be tossed around like a rag doll. Now, Onslaught wouldn't have the easiest time here; defeating the most powerful beings of Light and Dark in the SWU is no simple feat. But Onslaught could do it. Perhaps one of the only ones who can in the Marvel Universe.

Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
I can use a shotgun, or I can possess a BB gun. That doesn't mean crap.

No, that means your a psychodic serial killer.

my real name is OJ simpson (random)

lmao

Originally posted by atlant80
no lightsabers or swords remember magnitos powers. Ragnos beat Simus a guy who lived as a head in a jar. That means a lot.

So? Onslaught defeated the greatest pantheon of heroes ever assembled in the Marvel Universe. That means a lot. Simus' prolonged life is nothing short of amazing, but if it is a feat of prolonged life, coming back from the dead, etc., you want, the Marvel Universe can give you plenty of that.

yes but they are like zombies this guy stayed alive and Ragnos beat him so he is very strong

Magneto -

Magneto is easily in the Top Ten (possibly FIVE) most powerful mutants in the Marvel Universe. He can control and manipulate magnetism to his will. He can also control electro-magnetism and fire off powerful bursts of pure electronic energy. He can rip cars, trucks, tanks, and vehicles from the ground with ease. He can demolish buildings. He can even - when required - control the Earth's own magnetic field. Another one of his attributes includes the power to rip iron from people's own blood. This will cause extreme pain, unconsciousness, and possibly death. Also, Magneto wears a helmet that protects him from the mightiest of psionic attacks - even from Xavier's. Magneto possesses a genius IQ and can augment his strength to lift 100 tons.

Conceivably, MAGNETO could take Ragnos OR (not both at the same time) on by himself.

Then combine him with Professor X - who possesses the highest level of psionic power in a mutant - you go into overkill.

Ragnos can probably rip peoples hearts out through the force

Now. If we knew more about Ragnos, other than the following:

1. He was strong in the Force.
2. He ruled over the Sith Empire.
3. He possessed vast strength.

We would be able to dictate just how powerful he is. He also did defeat Simus.

Now. That still isn't enough to tell a lot about him. As I said, Magneto could conceivably take Ragnos by using his helmet to block any form of mind control - as well as crushing Ragnos like a tin can (because of his armor). If that didn't suffice, he could rip the blood from Ragnos's veins. Then if it got down to a physical fight, Magneto can lift 100 tons - using his powers to augment his physical strength.

So yes. It is quite possible Magneto himself could take Ragnos.

Originally posted by atlant80
Ragnos can probably rip peoples hearts out through the force

Probably? Well, he might very well possess that ability. Still, there's no concrete evidence. I'm not dissing Ragnos. We simply don't know about him enough to dictate just HOW powerful he is. But we do know that Magneto and Xavier are badasses on their own - and Onslaught is the supreme badass of Marvel.

Ragnos can probably move a star and if he can do that he will Make Magnito even more heartless then he is 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 And come on look at this Ragnos>simus>naga who can throw stars

Alright, alright... this thread is worse than Maul versus Wolverine.

Point here is that Onslaught's power is immense. It's visibly, recordedly immense.

Ragnos' power is immense. However, nothing he has really done is on file. And NJO Luke himself cannot defeat Onslaught. Therefore, Onslaught wins... but it'd be hellish.