Originally posted by atlant80
Ragnos can probably move a star and if he can do that he will Make Magnito even more heartless then he is 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆
Dude...stop gambling on probability and what ifs.
Ragnos may or may not be THAT powerful. YOU don't know. I don't know. Onslaught, so far, has the evidence supporting him. NOT Ragnos. NOT Luke.
Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
I'm not completly sure, but I am almost certain that one of Luke's students was able to move a star destroyer. That is much more than 100 tonnes. Luke or Ragnos could easily pwn Onslaught.
Funny how everyone here - except Atlant - disagrees with you on that final note, but it is your opinion - and you're entitled to it. 🙂
Lol. I think they both looked over the part that Onslaught can induce amnesia and mind-numbing psychic bolts. And also the part where Onslaught can rip the iron from people's blood and control the Earth's magnetic field. So let's run through this scenario.
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Ragnos prepares a burst of lethal Sith magic in his hands as NJO Luke fires a blast of his green Force lightning. Onslaught absorbs the energy and sends it back at Luke, who deflects it into the air. Onslaught takes priority and clenches his massive fist. Ragnos's armor folds inward and crushes the Sith Lord's ribs. Ragnos falls to the ground, coughing and sputtering - attempting to rip the armor from his bruised chest.
Onslaught fires a continous stream of mind bolts at Luke, who dodges them all. He reaches for his lightsaber and ignites it, but is amazed when the hilt is ripped from his hand by an invisible force, held out in front of him, and crushed into shrapnel. In his amazement, Luke does not see the psionic shockwave that slams into his form, knocking him head over heels, across the desert-like edifice of Korriban, where he crashes - ironically - into Ragnos's pyramid like tomb.
Ragnos rips the ruined armor from his chest, recovers, and uses a powerful Force wave against Onslaught. Onslaught is shaken, but absorbs the brunt of the blast. Onslaught clenches both of his fists sharply. Ragnos once more falls to the ground - unable to use the Force due to the extreme pain. Ragnos's blood vessels explode - and streams of iron are released from his ruptured veins. Ragnos is dazed from the painful assault. Onslaught motions, and the iron solidifies into a spear of solid iron. The psionic being waves his hand, and the spear drives through Ragnos's chest, lifting the Sith Lord off the ground and tossing him to the ground - thirty feet away. The blood leaks from his open arteries and veins, and Ragnos looks up into the sky, blood dripping from his lips, as he takes his final breath - cursing Onslaught with all of the hatred within him.
Luke rises slowly to his feet. He looked around, and gazed upon his fallen "partner's" body. His head turns sharply, as a blue-white blast of psionic energy impacts him, and throws him through the air like a rag doll. Onslaught moves forward with impossible speed and plants his foot down on Luke.
With the stronger of the two - Ragnos - dead, Onslaught was no longer burdened with a "threat". His massive hand curled into a fist, and he plunges it downward, smashing into Luke's neck - causing a wet smack to emerge from his skull.
Luke's bloody broken body went limp, and he died, Onslaught's foot still planted on his bloody chest.
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The end.
Originally posted by atlant80
Wow Ragnos might not win that....
WTF? Onslaught > Apocalypse. If Ragnos beats Onslaught, he takes Apoc. The question is if he does or does not.
Originally posted by Darth Faunus
I'm with Somebody here; and I highly doubt that either Luke OR Ragnos could lift one hundred tons with the Force. The X-Wing lifted by Yoda in ESb was a couple of tons. Now granted, it wasn't his full effort, but it was rather obvious that it took some toll on him. I'd say that, at most, Yoda could lift 30 tons or so with the Force. Luke and Ragnos? 50 or 60, at most.Guys, as much as I love the Star Wars Universe, its two most powerful beings would likely fall to the most powerful being in Marvel history, rivalling or surpassing even the destroyer and conquerer of a galactic level, Galactus himself.
If you can crush a star with 50 or 60 tons, I'd be amazed. The effort will require a ridiculous (highlight it, emphasize, italic, bold it, ridiculous) amount of force. And Onslaught isn't the most powerful being in the Marvel Universe, and really isn't that close.
Originally posted by Darth Somebody
Now. Perhaps Ragnos could defeat Onslaught. As Illustrious has stated time and time again, we simply don't know enough about him to rank him in terms of power. Saying he managed to make Sadow fear him is like saying Sidious managed to cow Dooku. We know for certain that Dooku feared Sidious - and yet many of you argued Dooku was superior - and that Sidious merely manipulated Dooku into fearing him. This may very well be the case with Ragnos.
This can't be the case, because it was stated explicitly that Ragnos was the dark lord of the Sith, the most powerful of the most powerful. Therefore he was clearly stronger than Naga Sadow. We know this much as canonically accepted.
Originally posted by Darth Faunus
But see, you don't seem to be able to comprehend the power of that being, be as it may that he's the mightiest on the planet. But how do you know that he isn't one of the most powerful in the galaxy? Chances are he is; the Marvel Universe itself features beings from all over the galaxy, even varying galaxies.Magneto himself can manipulate the very iron in a beings bloodstream. Onslaught would tear it from their bodies. So Ragnos, in all that armor, would be tossed around like a rag doll. Now, Onslaught wouldn't have the easiest time here; defeating the most powerful beings of Light and Dark in the SWU is no simple feat. But Onslaught could do it. Perhaps one of the only ones who can in the Marvel Universe.
There are quite a few beings stronger than Onslaught in both the MU and the DCU. I'd have to agree, Onslaught can beat Luke, even with all of Luke's ability to manipulate the force. We don't know enough about Ragnos for the judgment.
Originally posted by Illustrious
Asguardians, The Celestials, The One Above All, The Living Tribunal, and the list can go on. Onslaught is one of the most powerful earth characters, but at a cosmic level, no.
Well, those are quite literally Gods. And tell me, please; what Earth-being is more powerful than Ragnos?