Originally posted by TwisterGameXNo we uinderstand, you're the one that doesn't grasp the concept of using comic book characters in a comic book forum.
You both know how it's different. Stop trying to be smart about, and use everything even if you know it yourself just for the sake of trying to find wholes in what I say.You Honestly think it is the same as Comic Spiderman where he is from and where his bio is and what he accualy done that hos bio stated, put into a game, made by a completely different person, and another company with there own people. Than MGS that is a game not a comic first, made by the creator of it ? If you think it's the same, then I can't help you if even that you guys, can't understand, the basic concept of that.
Why are you so special you can dictate the forms of characters used by either side?
Originally posted by TwisterGameXYou don't even read spiderman do you?
So C, comic stats and bios and stats, are trusted ? Like how Spiderman was 10 ton, then his bio/stats got changed to 15 tons ?Comic writers, make to many wholes in there characters.
He's been upgraded to 15 in the comics. . but oh wait we can't use comic book history can we?
Originally posted by Creshosk
You don't even read spiderman do you?He's been upgraded to 15 in the comics. . but oh wait we can't use comic book history can we?
I just said he is 15 tons now and how his bio says that now, since we could only use that because it's never wrong and stays the same. Comic book writers change there characters way to much.
Originally posted by TwisterGameXSo you're saying Spiderman is inconsistant?
I just said he is 15 tons now and how his bio says that now, since we could only use that because it's never wrong and stays the same. Comic book writers change there characters way to much.
Marvel VS Capcom Spidey never changes. . . we could use him if you want to use video game characters here on the Comic versus forum.
He's consistant.
Originally posted by TwisterGameX
So C, comic stats and bios and stats, are trusted ? Like how Spiderman was 10 ton, then his bio/stats got changed to 15 tons ?Comic writers, make to many wholes in there characters.
No, stats are SOLID PROOF, unlike feats, spiderman was upgraded to 15 tons, is there a plot device there or loophole?
Originally posted by TwisterGameXThough many didn't like the upgrade, spiderman is very consistent and doesn't suffer from fanboyism too much.
I just said he is 15 tons now and how his bio says that now, since we could only use that because it's never wrong and stays the same. Comic book writers change there characters way to much.
Originally posted by TwisterGameX
You both know how it's different.
Its not any different nor is it allowed in this forum.
Originally posted by TwisterGameX
Stop trying to be smart about, and use everything even if you know it yourself just for the sake of trying to find wholes in what I say.
You are making the holes yourself friend.
Originally posted by TwisterGameX
You Honestly think it is the same as Comic Spiderman where he is from and where his bio is and what he accualy done that hos bio stated
What, his STATISTICS, are fact, plain and simple.
We use those to make logical conclusions, not one time or inconsistant feats.
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Originally posted by TwisterGameX
put into a game, made by a completely different person, and another company with there own people.
Like MGs, using cutscenes is okay for you.
Originally posted by TwisterGameX
Than MGS that is a game not a comic first, made by the creator of it ?
Cutscenses are no more a game, than comics are.
Originally posted by TwisterGameX
If you think it's the same, then I can't help you if even that you guys, can't understand, the basic concept of that.
You are in denail and trying to keep this going.
I'm an artist, I'm patient.
Originally posted by TwisterGameX
You both know how it's different. Stop trying to be smart about, and use everything even if you know it yourself just for the sake of trying to find wholes in what I say.You Honestly think it is the same as Comic Spiderman where he is from and where his bio is and what he accualy done that hos bio stated, put into a game, made by a completely different person, and another company with there own people. Than MGS that is a game not a comic first, made by the creator of it ? If you think it's the same, then I can't help you if even that you guys, can't understand, the basic concept of that.
Actually, they understand it just fine. It's not really rocket science your spouting. If anything, you're not making enough sense.
And I was serious about the grammar thing. I have to strain to understand what you're trying to say.
Okay. Comic Book Spiderman.
-15 tons of strength
-15x faster than peak human
-15x faster reflexes than peak human
-15x more agile than peak human
-Superhuman endurance.
-Superhuman durability.
-Superhuman healing factor (about 10x a healthy human)
-Spidersense (Precognitive abilities, allowing him to know what danger will occur approximately .5-2 seconds before it happens.
-Super strong, super sticky webbing. With textile strength of 120,000 lbs per square meter.
-One of the most resourceful heroes in comicdom.
-One of the faster thinkers on his feet.
-Genius.
-Street smarts/common sense.
Am I forgetting anything?
Okay, now. Twister, if you would be so kind as to supply the stats for Game Cyber Ninja. I'd just like to compare the two.
If it's not asking too much that is.
Originally posted by TwisterGameX
I don't even know who said what anymore, since everyone goes with another person's arguement, or picks up and asnwers questions directed at some one else.
That's fine, I understand your pain. I do, it happens to everyone.
But now, if it's okay, and if you don't mind, would you please answer my question? I'd like to compare the two stats with completely unbiased view.
Weapons and Abilities
Gray Fox's cybernetic armour enhances not only his strength, but his agility, speed, stamina, reaction time, durability; seemingly any human attribute up to nearly 20-30x normal human. Along with that, he sports a razor-sharp katana, possibly with vibro-blade qualities, capable of deflecting bullets and slicing through apparently any material with little resistance. In Metal Gear AC!D, his card states that this katana is in fact a High Frequency Blade. Towards the end of Metal Gear Solid when he confronts Metal Gear REX, Gray Fox's right arm is replaced with an extremely powerful directed energy weapon, seemingly an order of magnitude at least as powerful as Solid Snake's Stinger missile launcher. The text accompanying the designs for this weapon in The Art of Metal Gear Solid simply describes it as a "Laser Gun Arm".
Originally posted by TwisterGameX
Weapons and AbilitiesGray Fox's cybernetic armour enhances not only his strength, but his agility, speed, stamina, reaction time, durability; seemingly any human attribute up to nearly 20-30x normal human. Along with that, he sports a razor-sharp katana, possibly with vibro-blade qualities, capable of deflecting bullets and slicing through apparently any material with little resistance. In Metal Gear AC!D, his card states that this katana is in fact a High Frequency Blade. Towards the end of Metal Gear Solid when he confronts Metal Gear REX, Gray Fox's right arm is replaced with an extremely powerful directed energy weapon, seemingly an order of magnitude at least as powerful as Solid Snake's Stinger missile launcher. The text accompanying the designs for this weapon in The Art of Metal Gear Solid simply describes it as a "Laser Gun Arm".
20-30x? Really? That seems really high. But, I guess we're on the honor system here. I'll take your word for it. Just seems that Snake took advantage of him pretty quickly in that fight, so 20-30x attributes just don't seem to fit. That and he was dodging machine gun fire like Spidey would. But what gets me is if he was THAT fast, then those bullets would be moving like softballs to him, which they weren't.
I dunno. We'll stick with this I guess. Where'd you get those stats, by the way? I'm looking up a bunch of different MGS sites, just want to see if you're using one that I'm using.
Originally posted by TwisterGameXHis speed is equal to Spidermans it seems. . . or would be. . .except for the fact that
So what do you think about it now ?
Spiderman is 20x faster than a peak human now.
Fox is 20-30X faster than an average human.
Peak humans are already faster than average humans.
The energy arm is no different from shocker. . .
I still really don't see Fox as winning, he still needs to be able to break steel (his strength is not shown in that bio you posted) or be able to cut steel (The sword can be removed from his grip if he tries to cut a currently being fired webline.)
The sword is still removed and he is still webbed up.