Silver Surfer vs. Superman vs. Thor in PURE PHYSICAL BRAWL

no power cosmic blasts

no heat vision or freeze breath

no Mjolnir

simple and savage physical combat between these three titans

who stands among the Gods of men?

Superman, he's that bit stronger. His dials go to 11. 🙁

yeah I think Superman wins too, he has that extra gear he taps into from time to time

Thor does have the greatest experience of these three. But, under these conditions, Superman might edge out the victory. Just.

Thor doesn't seem to possess the will on the level that Superman possesses

Originally posted by masterbruce
Thor doesn't seem to possess the will on the level that Superman possesses

Thor was fighting cosmic menaces and giant foes for untold ages before Superman ever existed. He had to earn the right to carry Mjolnir. Take Mjolnir out of the picture, it's a toss up between the two. Becuase Superman might have an edge in endurance and durability, in a pure power brawl, is why I said he wins, more likely.
The Surfer isn't as used to h2h as the others; power cosmic does it most of the time for him.

I dont know, from the limited appearances of Thor that I have read, he seems to have too many faults:

1) his intelligence seems kinda low
2) he's usually a follower, not a leader
3) his emotions overtake him often

Thor has not really impressed me as much more than the requisite muscle on a team

Originally posted by masterbruce
I dont know, from the limited appearances of Thor that I have read, he seems to have too many faults:

1) his intelligence seems kinda low
2) he's usually a follower, not a leader
3) his emotions overtake him often

Thor has not really impressed me as much more than the requisite muscle on a team

Yes and No.
Thor's trouble has always been his temper and acting rashly. It's his chief weakness, along with not being the sharpest of thinkers - that's why someone as sly as Loki always hatches schemes against him, and has throwaway insults like "use what little brains you have, brother." Being proud and headstrong is what led Odin to initially banish him into the mortal form of Donald Blake; to teach him the value of patience.
The thing is, Thor is aware of his rash nature and often differs to the cool counsel of Captain America, because he knows he's a level-headed thinker, when he could assert his position as arguably the most powerful avenger. His and Cap's relationship is so much smoother than say, Superman to Batman.

It's these small flaws in character, as a weakness, that I find interesting. Much more than someone being vunerable to a hunk of green glowing rock. 😛

Originally posted by masterbruce
I dont know, from the limited appearances of Thor that I have read, he seems to have too many faults:

1) his intelligence seems kinda low
2) he's usually a follower, not a leader
3) his emotions overtake him often

Thor has not really impressed me as much more than the requisite muscle on a team

The avengers version of Thor is a tame comparison to the one who fights on his own. It has even been discovered that Thor holds back serious amounts of power, when he fights with the Avengers. Apparently he subconsciously doesn't want to show up the other power houses such as Wonderman and Iron man.

Moondragon a very powerful ailen telepath discovered all this.

"Apparently he subconsciously doesn't want to show up the other power houses such as Wonderman and Iron man. "

Sorry, but I call that as BS rationale that comic book writers came up with to fit Thor into the team.

Think about it, because Thor is so modest he holds back his powers so that his teammates can have a much harder time in battle and get beat up by enemies, how much sense does that make?

Originally posted by masterbruce
"Apparently he subconsciously doesn't want to show up the other power houses such as Wonderman and Iron man. "

Sorry, but I call that as BS rationale that comic book writers came up with to fit Thor into the team.

Think about it, because Thor is so modest he holds back his powers so that his teammates can have a much harder time in battle and get beat up by enemies, how much sense does that make?

Do you know what Subconsciously means ? 🙂

I have to go with Thor in this one. Sufer really can't stand up to either in term of h2h and while Superman has the edge in flight and speed, I think that his thousands of years of warrior training would give his the edge against Superman. Through the hours of h2h combat more of Thor's blows would connect and eventually I think he would win. Superman's biggest weakness is his lack of realy combat training. The only example I know of the what he learned from Mongul's son while Thor has spent his light training.

i dont think thor has h2h fighting experience as much as superman

T-Money would win, but we arent talking about that version of thor, so i'd give it to Supes EASILY, hes crush them both at the same time, without much of a problem, besides the whole thor has magic part, in brute strength these dudes couldnt even take mongul.

"Apparently he subconsciously doesn't want to show up the other power houses such as Wonderman and Iron man. "

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"Sorry, but I call that as BS rationale that comic book writers came up with to fit Thor into the team.

Think about it, because Thor is so modest he holds back his powers so that his teammates can have a much harder time in battle and get beat up by enemies, how much sense does that make"

No it doesnt. But how else would the writters give screen time to guys like Captain America and Wasp if characters like Thor always go out?

As for the fight, due to feats, experience and skills i give it to Thor.

"dont think thor has h2h fighting experience as much as superman"

Supes has less skills. And experience.

Originally posted by jacobo0o
i dont think thor has h2h fighting experience as much as superman

HELLO - he's a God around for uncounted milennia, perpetually in combat? Superman is a youngling by far.

You can just listen to Dan Jurgens, who has written both characters: Head-to-head, with Mjolnir, Thor beats Superman. Without the hammer, it's a tossup.

Originally posted by roughrider
You can just listen to Dan Jurgens, who has written both characters: Head-to-head, with Mjolnir, Thor beats Superman. Without the hammer, it's a tossup.

For a God who's been around for uncounted milennia, perpetually in combat, Thor sure doesn't seem like that great of a fighter

and remember quantity isnt everything

I can play bball against little kids for 20 years and still easily be a lot worse than someone who plays in college ball for 2 years

Originally posted by King KAM
how bout NO

KAM has a point.... The Thor that Jurgens created was a bit of a whimp compared to the Thor of the 70's and 80's. Until he became King Thor that is 🙂